What is your plan for Windows Vista?
Buy new, Build, Upgrade, or Wait?
Thursday, November 30, 2006 by Island Dog | Discussion: Windows Vista
Now that Vista is a "reality" for some, meaning that business customers and some others can now get their hands on it, and the retail release is less than two months away. Do any of you have a "plan"? I'm still not sure what my plan is to be honest.
Right now I'm running a 2.8ghz Intel, with 1gig of RAM, and a Radeon 9800 Pro video card. It has served me well over the past couple of years, and some of the parts are very new including a sound card and lightscribe DVD burner. I could just add Vista to my second hard drive and run it from there, but I'm still not sure. With the parts on-hand I could build a Core 2 Duo system for real cheap, or just wait and save for later.
So how many of you plan to get Vista? If you do plan on getting it or already have it, are you going to install it on your current system, or build/buy new maybe? Let's hear it!
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RomanDA
Reply #82 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:00 AM
Reply #82 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:00 AM
I have no hardware that can run vista, not in a fashion that would make me want to USE it. I guess when XP becomes a dead product and our IT people THEN decide to switch to Vista (when the next OS is out), we will go to Vista. Till then, I will stick with XP SP2 (SP3 anyone?) I like it, it works, and its a corporate version that doesn't bitch when I blast my laptop every 9mo or so and start over. LOL
Orion
Reply #83 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:05 AM
FYI, I just saw recently that SP3 probably won't be out until 2008. If I can find it again, I'll edit and post it.
Reply #83 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:05 AM
| Till then, I will stick with XP SP2 (SP3 anyone?) |
FYI, I just saw recently that SP3 probably won't be out until 2008. If I can find it again, I'll edit and post it.
Zoomba
Reply #84 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:14 AM
Reply #84 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:14 AM
I'm currently running Vista on my secondary box here at work. Based on my experiences with it, the current state of driver support, the lack of distinct advantage in switching to Vista over XP for gaming, and the price tag... my plan is to wait a while before loading it on my home machine. There simply aren't enough advantages to justify shelling out all that money for an OS that doesn't do things any better than XP at the moment.
I'll consider Vista when I move to 64-bit, and once games run at least as well under Vista as they do under XP. Until then, no clear advantage.
I'll consider Vista when I move to 64-bit, and once games run at least as well under Vista as they do under XP. Until then, no clear advantage.
Phoon
Reply #85 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:05 PM
Let us translate...
Kona - Boo-ho, I can't take it.
rappermas - I'm an idiot
On topic - Im running Vista Ultimate on a Dell Latitude D620 along with Office 2007 Professional Plus. Working like a champ so far.
Reply #85 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:05 PM
| So let's quit bashing Kona K? |
| I can't just stand at the sidelines and watch you guys pummel poor kona- |
Let us translate...
Kona - Boo-ho, I can't take it.
rappermas - I'm an idiot
On topic - Im running Vista Ultimate on a Dell Latitude D620 along with Office 2007 Professional Plus. Working like a champ so far.
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #86 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:56 PM
Reply #86 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:56 PM
| So let's quit bashing Kona K? |
What do you expect? You de-rail every single thread you appear in. Gets very frustrating for everyone to have one single disruptive individual hijacking threads.
If you don't like the answer, you shouldn't ask the question 
Island Dog
Reply #87 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:13 PM
Reply #87 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:13 PM
Ok, lets keep to the original topic from now on.
This was a post about how users plan to use Vista, not an opinion on linux.
This was a post about how users plan to use Vista, not an opinion on linux.
rabidrobot
Reply #88 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:59 PM
Reply #88 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:59 PM
Right now I plan to buy and install the commercial release of Vista Ultimate as soon as I am allowed.
I am not happy with the price and licensing. My computer is middle of the line--two years ago--3.7 Windows Experience Index. I don't like that if I buy Vista now, it means I am also committing to staying with this computer for a while to get my "money's worth" on a new OS. Not to mention the additional several hundred dollars that will be charged for the Expressions products, which I will also need. At least I will be able to install those on a new machine, though.
But, even though I don't like the EULA, I still plan to get Vista ASAP.
Because Vista kicks ass. Everything looks better. Seriously, not just the killer and versatile Aero Glass, but everything. Images scale cleaner. Fonts are smoother, and I even set a custom DPI for slightly enlarged fonts. Playing with font size in XP never worked for me...it would be ignored in some places or break layouts. Vista handles this all in stride, and I mean it, text looks better.
Cleaner text and prettier images improve my own performance and enjoyment if only slightly.
Things run smoother in Vista. I have had fewer app crashes and maybe two OS crashes. Switching between running apps seems quicker to me (a lot of this is just my impressions--I did not run any experiments or do research).
I had to find a driver for my stone age trackball, but otherwise had no troubles with hardware. Vista has better troubleshooters and more intelligent driver updating in any case--even with XP you'll still be updating and dealing with drivers. It part of the deal. At least Vista has made this process easier.
Well, I could go on. But I would like to make just one last point. Several people have said things to the effect of "Why should I buy Vista when I can do everything already on XP?" In fact, there are a growing number of things you will just not be able to do with XP that you can with Vista.
First there is the Areo theme and the DWM. People who haven't tried Flip3D or seen the live thumbnails in the taskbar can pooh-pooh these advancements, but I find them helpful tools.
Vista has an incredible Speech Recognition engine and underlying technology. This aspect is underreported, but there is a huge potential in this technology. I just played around with it for a few days, and I had my computer browsing the net, taking dictation, exploring the file system and opening and using apps, all just by speaking aloud. Now, I understand that some people may not be interested in this in any case, but it is still true that here is another thing you just won't be able to do on XP.
XP requires additional downloads (which will probably be released eventually in a Serice Pack) to use a subset of WPF applications. So, some of the new stuff will eventually be available to users of XP--and every other OS. Such as the new web technologies in XBAPs and WPF/E. Look at Karsten Januszewski's site WWW Link (or my own site) for some XBAP examples. These are (potentially) full featured apps that run in your browser. And for now, if you want to make these, you'll be using Vista.
OK. Well, I do go on. And I could some more. Vista's new tools for admins, like powershell, and powerful performance tools. Bottom line, Vista isn't just some WindowsXP-dressing. I can understand the cost being a deterrent, and I can relate to the argument that Vista is not _enough_ of an improvement to justify upgrading, but I have to disagree with folks who say it is not any different than XP except in appearance and vaguely referred to security. Vista is a sea change, and when you all do eventually try it, you'll be glad you did.
I am not happy with the price and licensing. My computer is middle of the line--two years ago--3.7 Windows Experience Index. I don't like that if I buy Vista now, it means I am also committing to staying with this computer for a while to get my "money's worth" on a new OS. Not to mention the additional several hundred dollars that will be charged for the Expressions products, which I will also need. At least I will be able to install those on a new machine, though.
But, even though I don't like the EULA, I still plan to get Vista ASAP.
Because Vista kicks ass. Everything looks better. Seriously, not just the killer and versatile Aero Glass, but everything. Images scale cleaner. Fonts are smoother, and I even set a custom DPI for slightly enlarged fonts. Playing with font size in XP never worked for me...it would be ignored in some places or break layouts. Vista handles this all in stride, and I mean it, text looks better.
Cleaner text and prettier images improve my own performance and enjoyment if only slightly.
Things run smoother in Vista. I have had fewer app crashes and maybe two OS crashes. Switching between running apps seems quicker to me (a lot of this is just my impressions--I did not run any experiments or do research).
I had to find a driver for my stone age trackball, but otherwise had no troubles with hardware. Vista has better troubleshooters and more intelligent driver updating in any case--even with XP you'll still be updating and dealing with drivers. It part of the deal. At least Vista has made this process easier.
Well, I could go on. But I would like to make just one last point. Several people have said things to the effect of "Why should I buy Vista when I can do everything already on XP?" In fact, there are a growing number of things you will just not be able to do with XP that you can with Vista.
First there is the Areo theme and the DWM. People who haven't tried Flip3D or seen the live thumbnails in the taskbar can pooh-pooh these advancements, but I find them helpful tools.
Vista has an incredible Speech Recognition engine and underlying technology. This aspect is underreported, but there is a huge potential in this technology. I just played around with it for a few days, and I had my computer browsing the net, taking dictation, exploring the file system and opening and using apps, all just by speaking aloud. Now, I understand that some people may not be interested in this in any case, but it is still true that here is another thing you just won't be able to do on XP.
XP requires additional downloads (which will probably be released eventually in a Serice Pack) to use a subset of WPF applications. So, some of the new stuff will eventually be available to users of XP--and every other OS. Such as the new web technologies in XBAPs and WPF/E. Look at Karsten Januszewski's site WWW Link (or my own site) for some XBAP examples. These are (potentially) full featured apps that run in your browser. And for now, if you want to make these, you'll be using Vista.
OK. Well, I do go on. And I could some more. Vista's new tools for admins, like powershell, and powerful performance tools. Bottom line, Vista isn't just some WindowsXP-dressing. I can understand the cost being a deterrent, and I can relate to the argument that Vista is not _enough_ of an improvement to justify upgrading, but I have to disagree with folks who say it is not any different than XP except in appearance and vaguely referred to security. Vista is a sea change, and when you all do eventually try it, you'll be glad you did.
starkers
Reply #89 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:34 PM
Reply #89 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:34 PM
Right on Rabidrobot....Vista is more than a pretty face, and all you say about driver support and troubleshooting is spot on. XP never had the kind of under the hood s0upport mechanisms Vista has....and never will, no matter how many eye Vista apps & eye candy gets backported.
Yeah, the price is a bit steeper than I'd like, but I'll be investing in it because it handles multi-media tasks and functions much more efficiently, among many other tasks XP does not handle as well.
If it were just for the eye candy, it'd be pointless to an ODNT subscriber who can achieve all those nice glass effects and more in XP. There has to be a more valid rerason than pure eye candy, and as rabidrobot has stated from personal experience with Vista, there are many improvements under the hood which will warrant upgrading for many PC users as their computing needs expand/grow/become more sophisticated, etc.
Yeah, the price is a bit steeper than I'd like, but I'll be investing in it because it handles multi-media tasks and functions much more efficiently, among many other tasks XP does not handle as well.
If it were just for the eye candy, it'd be pointless to an ODNT subscriber who can achieve all those nice glass effects and more in XP. There has to be a more valid rerason than pure eye candy, and as rabidrobot has stated from personal experience with Vista, there are many improvements under the hood which will warrant upgrading for many PC users as their computing needs expand/grow/become more sophisticated, etc.
rappermas
Reply #90 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:08 PM
Reply #90 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:08 PM
You know what guys, kona does the same thing on our Linux forums sometimes--he actually promoted Windows and bashes Linux. We don't exactly get angry and start a flame war. I guess that's just how it is over here--I thought this would be a cool site to discuss some Microsoft-related things, but it seems like it's short fuses abound.
I haven't yet seen on this thread, with the obvious exception of rabidrobot, a post that is grounded in reality rather than emotion.
I especially like getting called an idiot and a poser. Very professional, coming from people that don't know me, have never even met me, and are guessing at myths. And did I deserve it? Yeah, I answered the question--I'm not going to get Vista for a while and even then it won't be by personal choice.
All I did was fairly present my case and let you guys know that flaming someone just because of beliefs, politics, or a financial situation is not fair. I for one don't see the turn-around in buying Vista. If I did, I would get Ultimate. The sector of the market to which I belong is called the enthusiast market, you know, people that always have to have the latest hardware and software first. That's the only reason I have the aforementioned hardware that I have done testing on.
More so, what I have gathered from experience is that anyone who calls another person inexperienced or stupid about a subject area usually has no experience himself. And age doesn't matter either--claiming that you were dealing with these things since you were alive doesn't exactly say anything. What about the people that have been around computers since the early 80's and still can't figure out the difference between a computer and a monitor, whereas a young child these days can be adept enough to use the console in a computer game to script events.
Not a good image guys, not at all. Many places on this forum I've seen references to the Mac fanboy or Linux fanboy mentality--it exists just as strong right here.
I haven't yet seen on this thread, with the obvious exception of rabidrobot, a post that is grounded in reality rather than emotion.
I especially like getting called an idiot and a poser. Very professional, coming from people that don't know me, have never even met me, and are guessing at myths. And did I deserve it? Yeah, I answered the question--I'm not going to get Vista for a while and even then it won't be by personal choice.
All I did was fairly present my case and let you guys know that flaming someone just because of beliefs, politics, or a financial situation is not fair. I for one don't see the turn-around in buying Vista. If I did, I would get Ultimate. The sector of the market to which I belong is called the enthusiast market, you know, people that always have to have the latest hardware and software first. That's the only reason I have the aforementioned hardware that I have done testing on.
More so, what I have gathered from experience is that anyone who calls another person inexperienced or stupid about a subject area usually has no experience himself. And age doesn't matter either--claiming that you were dealing with these things since you were alive doesn't exactly say anything. What about the people that have been around computers since the early 80's and still can't figure out the difference between a computer and a monitor, whereas a young child these days can be adept enough to use the console in a computer game to script events.
Not a good image guys, not at all. Many places on this forum I've seen references to the Mac fanboy or Linux fanboy mentality--it exists just as strong right here.
Orion
Reply #91 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:00 PM
Reply #91 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:00 PM
You are a poser...
Your reality maybe. People feel passionately about things sometimes....get over it.
Excuse me while a shed a tear for the young and dumb. You come here to defend an idiot, defending an OS that wasn't attacked, spouting your version of what you believe to be fact...about something the thread wasn't on....
You're right, that was completely unjustified....
...but to respond to your point about
If not also to point out that your few years sitting in your bedroom messing around with an os doesn't make you an authority on the subject in order to state your version of the "facts"....when others have been running it in a production environment for many many years, where thousands of people count on a functioning system, can rebut just about every one of your "facts" (opinions) with his own "facts" (opinions)...but actually relying on RWE to backup his "facts" (opinions).
Yup! You got me there! I'm busted. ...but my paycheck might have something to say about that...along with the twenty years of professional administration experience.
...and then you turn around and do the same thing. Giving opinions as if they were fact. Everyone does it...Kona, me,.....even you...
So, to sum up: You sign up for an account yesterday, troll a little, and then wonder why you get p1ssed on? Makes perfect since to me.
P.S. *nix IS a joke as a desktop system.
| I haven't yet seen on this thread, with the obvious exception of rabidrobot, a post that is grounded in reality rather than emotion. |
| is just unfair. |
| I especially like getting called an idiot and a poser. |
| is not fair. |
Excuse me while a shed a tear for the young and dumb. You come here to defend an idiot, defending an OS that wasn't attacked, spouting your version of what you believe to be fact...about something the thread wasn't on....
You're right, that was completely unjustified....
| claiming that you were dealing with these things since you were alive doesn't exactly say anything. |
| --someone that has never even tried it shouldn't exactly blurt out random FUD--it's just as rude as the FUD that people have been spreading about Vista |
| More so, what I have gathered from experience is that anyone who calls another person inexperienced or stupid about a subject area usually has no experience himself. |
| The fact remains that unless you provide cold, hard facts as to why you say so, it doesn't make it true. |
...and then you turn around and do the same thing. Giving opinions as if they were fact. Everyone does it...Kona, me,.....even you...
So, to sum up: You sign up for an account yesterday, troll a little, and then wonder why you get p1ssed on? Makes perfect since to me.
P.S. *nix IS a joke as a desktop system.
rappermas
Reply #92 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:50 PM
Reply #92 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:50 PM
Yes, well, I think kona is a good person at heart that means well. All I know is that I wouldn't treat him the way you did.
And I haven't sat in my bedroom for years and messed around with the OS--I have administered real Linux boxes that were, essentially, the mail backbone. I always administered Windows servers. But you're right, you probably do have more experience than me in general.
Ok, so I have thrown in some of my own opinion here and there, but I also like to ground my statements in truth, be it documentation, source code, statistics, or whatever. Some people simply like a product just because it's the only thing they've ever used.
I'd really just like to end this. These flame wars can go back and forth forever--human nature.
Mind all of you, my next computer is already going to be a MacBook Pro for around 3700 dollars. Doesn't seem likely I'll get Vista. I have Vista running on a test machine right now. I can say that I like a few of things they've done, such as the DPI settings that rabidrobot talked about, as well as the GUI. Not only that, I like the new apps that come with it--it's finally coming with some real pre-bundled software. But I just don't see the need for it. The main things that I do are web design, systems administration, and programming. I can happily do all of that without Vista. Needless to say, there are going to be a lot of consumers running this OS pretty soon, although I personally believe that the high price tag will make the Mac and Linux market share grow.
Unfortunately, what may happen is that I eat my own words as I am forced to use Vista to run DX10 games, satisfying that hard-core gamer that lives somewhere within me that won't die.
I hope for no more flames. What we all deserve is the freedom of choice--for some it is Windows and for some it is Linux. Keep in mind that some people don't even have a computer. As long as we all have our freedom of choice, however, there really shouldn't be a problem here. It starts becoming difficult when human nature takes over and people think that what they have is superior and want everyone else to have the same.
"If men were angels..."
And I haven't sat in my bedroom for years and messed around with the OS--I have administered real Linux boxes that were, essentially, the mail backbone. I always administered Windows servers. But you're right, you probably do have more experience than me in general.
Ok, so I have thrown in some of my own opinion here and there, but I also like to ground my statements in truth, be it documentation, source code, statistics, or whatever. Some people simply like a product just because it's the only thing they've ever used.
I'd really just like to end this. These flame wars can go back and forth forever--human nature.
Mind all of you, my next computer is already going to be a MacBook Pro for around 3700 dollars. Doesn't seem likely I'll get Vista. I have Vista running on a test machine right now. I can say that I like a few of things they've done, such as the DPI settings that rabidrobot talked about, as well as the GUI. Not only that, I like the new apps that come with it--it's finally coming with some real pre-bundled software. But I just don't see the need for it. The main things that I do are web design, systems administration, and programming. I can happily do all of that without Vista. Needless to say, there are going to be a lot of consumers running this OS pretty soon, although I personally believe that the high price tag will make the Mac and Linux market share grow.
Unfortunately, what may happen is that I eat my own words as I am forced to use Vista to run DX10 games, satisfying that hard-core gamer that lives somewhere within me that won't die.
I hope for no more flames. What we all deserve is the freedom of choice--for some it is Windows and for some it is Linux. Keep in mind that some people don't even have a computer. As long as we all have our freedom of choice, however, there really shouldn't be a problem here. It starts becoming difficult when human nature takes over and people think that what they have is superior and want everyone else to have the same.
"If men were angels..."
tjesterb
Reply #94 Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:52 AM
Reply #94 Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:52 AM
Well, I just installed it a few hours ago, and so far so good.
I had to get the RC2 drivers for my nVidia soundcard, and I got lots of compatibility warnings when I installed Nero 7 and SAV 10. Right now it looks like I can do a scan, but auto-protect won't work. I also see it automatically installs IPv6, but so far it hasn't caused a problem.
My Winfast PVR card isn't supported. The installer puked when I tried to install.
I had to play around a little to get DIVX encoded video to play in WMP 11, but it seems to be working now.
I love some of the extra Admin features. The Local Security console carries a lot of the options from Server 2K3, and I see built in support for iSCSI network drive mapping!
That little User-account warning box that pops up every time I do anything has to go, though.
Overall I look forward to playing around and seeing what it can do.
You may now resume the Win-vs-'nix-vs-OSX debate, and the kona-poking.
I had to get the RC2 drivers for my nVidia soundcard, and I got lots of compatibility warnings when I installed Nero 7 and SAV 10. Right now it looks like I can do a scan, but auto-protect won't work. I also see it automatically installs IPv6, but so far it hasn't caused a problem.
My Winfast PVR card isn't supported. The installer puked when I tried to install.
I had to play around a little to get DIVX encoded video to play in WMP 11, but it seems to be working now.
I love some of the extra Admin features. The Local Security console carries a lot of the options from Server 2K3, and I see built in support for iSCSI network drive mapping!
That little User-account warning box that pops up every time I do anything has to go, though.
Overall I look forward to playing around and seeing what it can do.
You may now resume the Win-vs-'nix-vs-OSX debate, and the kona-poking.
Orion
Reply #95 Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:52 AM
You need SAVCE 10.2.0.224 or greater for vista support.
K-Lite Codec pack works great.
I think we got that out of our system now.
Reply #95 Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:52 AM
| but auto-protect won't work. |
You need SAVCE 10.2.0.224 or greater for vista support.
| had to play around a little to get DIVX encoded video to play in WMP 11 |
| You may now resume the Win-vs-'nix-vs-OSX debate, and the kona-poking. |
I think we got that out of our system now.
SSG Geezer
Reply #96 Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:59 PM
Reply #96 Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:59 PM
Ignore it until support for XP ends or there is a game that I must have uses only Vista.
Forced upgrades make me cranky. And I have had few or no troubles with XP.
Forced upgrades make me cranky. And I have had few or no troubles with XP.
veer1
Reply #97 Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:07 PM
Reply #97 Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:07 PM
Honestly, the real thing about vista that will be the black horse is the aero interface. If you turn that off the computer runs really great. In terms of structure, vista is way more advanced and by that i mean contains more internal programs to increase stability and usability which just kills the ram. I live in the caribbean so even if i buy a dell they may not even offer anything but vista basic designed for 3rd world countries. Even though, fifty bucks and i could get stardock and get the cool interface. (If i remember when windowblinds vista was in its earlier stages, someone on the development team remarked that it is actually more efficient than the aero interface.
Pretty much, wait!!
which just kills the ram. I live in the caribbean so even if i buy a dell they may not even offer anything but vista basic designed for 3rd world countries. Even though, fifty bucks and i could get stardock and get the cool interface. (If i remember when windowblinds vista was in its earlier stages, someone on the development team remarked that it is actually more efficient than the aero interface.Pretty much, wait!!
Armbut
Reply #98 Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:23 PM
In the business environment, maybe. But for the consumer versions of Vista (Basic, Premium and Ultimate) it would just make more sense if MS would license copies of Vista per user, much like Apple does (however only to people who use Macs...oh well....). Even though I'm going to get Vista, it would be much easier for me to get if I only had to get one copy for my 3 PCs.
Reply #98 Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:23 PM
| It makes more sense that it is per machine. |
In the business environment, maybe. But for the consumer versions of Vista (Basic, Premium and Ultimate) it would just make more sense if MS would license copies of Vista per user, much like Apple does (however only to people who use Macs...oh well....). Even though I'm going to get Vista, it would be much easier for me to get if I only had to get one copy for my 3 PCs.
Bunnahabhain
Reply #99 Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:36 PM
Reply #99 Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:36 PM
I want Vista Ultimate, but when that will become reality I cannot even offer a guess right now. That and that fact that none of the information that I've seen on 64-bit versions is very clear. Does Ultimate include both 32 and 64-bit versions? Can someone upgrade from say XP Media Center 2005 to Vista Ultimate 64-bit edition? Who knows?
In my professional career, I have been an early adopter when I see a business advantage in doing so. On my current office machine I am running XP-64. Now I've only had this machine for a few months, but I am disappointed by the lack of third party support for it
Now maybe I was being overly optimistic, but I expected more (most) 32-bit applications to run without issues on WOW. As for 64-bit support, the silence is deafening! Every major company that I have worked for in the last 20 years has always had HP LaserJet printers. What HP is currently offering as a driver under XP-64 is appalling.
My luck with Object Desktop has been spotty. I've currently got control center and tab launchpad working without major issues, so I'm relatively pleased, but I wish there was more publicly available information on the Stardock website as to current 64-bit support and future plans.
Getting drivers for my embedded sound chip to work was worse than pulling teeth. True 64-bit applications seem pretty few and far between. Visual Studio 2005 works well, but without that XP-64 would be pretty useless to me.
On my home systems, I have been a late adopter. My first real experience with 32-bit XP came this year when I bought a refurbished eMachines with an AMD 64-bit processor and Windows XP Media Center Edition. Overall, I'd have to say that the experience is pretty slick. WMP 10 was much better than WMP 9. I got tricked into upgrading to WMP 11 (but that's another story), Burning and ripping music (all legal stuff here) has been a joy.
Will I upgrade? Of course I will. When, who knows?
In my professional career, I have been an early adopter when I see a business advantage in doing so. On my current office machine I am running XP-64. Now I've only had this machine for a few months, but I am disappointed by the lack of third party support for it
Now maybe I was being overly optimistic, but I expected more (most) 32-bit applications to run without issues on WOW. As for 64-bit support, the silence is deafening! Every major company that I have worked for in the last 20 years has always had HP LaserJet printers. What HP is currently offering as a driver under XP-64 is appalling.
My luck with Object Desktop has been spotty. I've currently got control center and tab launchpad working without major issues, so I'm relatively pleased, but I wish there was more publicly available information on the Stardock website as to current 64-bit support and future plans.
Getting drivers for my embedded sound chip to work was worse than pulling teeth. True 64-bit applications seem pretty few and far between. Visual Studio 2005 works well, but without that XP-64 would be pretty useless to me.
On my home systems, I have been a late adopter. My first real experience with 32-bit XP came this year when I bought a refurbished eMachines with an AMD 64-bit processor and Windows XP Media Center Edition. Overall, I'd have to say that the experience is pretty slick. WMP 10 was much better than WMP 9. I got tricked into upgrading to WMP 11 (but that's another story), Burning and ripping music (all legal stuff here) has been a joy.
Will I upgrade? Of course I will. When, who knows?
Orion
Reply #100 Monday, December 18, 2006 11:43 AM
Yes.
No. You cannot upgrade to 64bit...you must do a fresh install.
I hear your 64bit pain. I rebuilt back to Vista Ultimate 32 after about six hours. Then, after researching further, there just wasn't a compelling reason for me to run 64bit.
Reply #100 Monday, December 18, 2006 11:43 AM
| Does Ultimate include both 32 and 64-bit versions? |
Yes.
| Can someone upgrade from say XP Media Center 2005 to Vista Ultimate 64-bit edition? |
No. You cannot upgrade to 64bit...you must do a fresh install.
I hear your 64bit pain. I rebuilt back to Vista Ultimate 32 after about six hours. Then, after researching further, there just wasn't a compelling reason for me to run 64bit.
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Reply #81 Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:51 AM
LMAO