What is your plan for Windows Vista?
Buy new, Build, Upgrade, or Wait?
Thursday, November 30, 2006 by Island Dog | Discussion: Windows Vista
Now that Vista is a "reality" for some, meaning that business customers and some others can now get their hands on it, and the retail release is less than two months away. Do any of you have a "plan"? I'm still not sure what my plan is to be honest.
Right now I'm running a 2.8ghz Intel, with 1gig of RAM, and a Radeon 9800 Pro video card. It has served me well over the past couple of years, and some of the parts are very new including a sound card and lightscribe DVD burner. I could just add Vista to my second hard drive and run it from there, but I'm still not sure. With the parts on-hand I could build a Core 2 Duo system for real cheap, or just wait and save for later.
So how many of you plan to get Vista? If you do plan on getting it or already have it, are you going to install it on your current system, or build/buy new maybe? Let's hear it!
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Fuzzy Logic
Reply #42 Monday, December 4, 2006 1:42 PM
Reply #42 Monday, December 4, 2006 1:42 PM
| So how many of you plan to get Vista? If you do plan on getting it or already have it, are you going to install it on your current system, or build/buy new maybe? Let's hear it! |
That was the question, not 'what is your misguided view of XP'... 
Phoon
Reply #43 Monday, December 4, 2006 2:28 PM
That's true Fuzzy, but it would be rude to start a thread titled " Let's all make Kona squirm!" Therefore, we must seize each golden opportunity that presents itself to us.
Reply #43 Monday, December 4, 2006 2:28 PM
| That was the question, not 'what is your misguided view of XP' |
That's true Fuzzy, but it would be rude to start a thread titled " Let's all make Kona squirm!" Therefore, we must seize each golden opportunity that presents itself to us.
Corky_O
Reply #44 Monday, December 4, 2006 2:46 PM
Reply #44 Monday, December 4, 2006 2:46 PM
Core2 Duo system here with supporting hardware (except DirectX 10 / TV tuner video card). Vista experience at 5.2.
I will still wait to see what Adobe does to support CS2 on Vista.
I would prefer to have a fully functional Adobe CS2 on XP, than a partially compatible CS2 on Vista.
If Adobe does not provide an update to make CS2 fully compatible with Vista, I may opt to wait a year and run XP while saving for a new video card that is DirectX 10 compatible and purchase Adobe CS3 which one must assume will be compatible with Vista.
I find that getting out and living life away from the screen is fun, so the PC is less important to me as time goes on - although, it has always been a useful tool.
I will still wait to see what Adobe does to support CS2 on Vista.
I would prefer to have a fully functional Adobe CS2 on XP, than a partially compatible CS2 on Vista.
If Adobe does not provide an update to make CS2 fully compatible with Vista, I may opt to wait a year and run XP while saving for a new video card that is DirectX 10 compatible and purchase Adobe CS3 which one must assume will be compatible with Vista.
I find that getting out and living life away from the screen is fun, so the PC is less important to me as time goes on - although, it has always been a useful tool.
Island Dog
Reply #45 Monday, December 4, 2006 3:50 PM
Reply #45 Monday, December 4, 2006 3:50 PM
| I would prefer to have a fully functional Adobe CS2 on XP, than a partially compatible CS2 on Vista. |
Good point.
Threi
Reply #46 Monday, December 4, 2006 3:55 PM
Reply #46 Monday, December 4, 2006 3:55 PM
whoo im gunna capitalize on the topic - which version of linux is best for an everyday OS? (im planning on using it too)
Fuzzy what version of linux are you moving to as you said?
Fuzzy what version of linux are you moving to as you said?
ZubaZ
Reply #47 Monday, December 4, 2006 4:12 PM
There are a number of different threads on this topic on WC. I've derailed enough threads not to care too much . . but they are out there and might be useful. (ubuntu
)
Reply #47 Monday, December 4, 2006 4:12 PM
| whoo im gunna capitalize on the topic - which version of linux is best for an everyday OS? (im planning on using it too) |
There are a number of different threads on this topic on WC. I've derailed enough threads not to care too much . . but they are out there and might be useful. (ubuntu
)
Island Dog
Reply #48 Monday, December 4, 2006 4:27 PM
Reply #48 Monday, December 4, 2006 4:27 PM
Lets get back to the original topic please. I'm really was curious of what your plans are for Vista.
PurrBall
Reply #49 Monday, December 4, 2006 5:56 PM
Reply #49 Monday, December 4, 2006 5:56 PM
I'm not getting it. I don't like how the layout and access of everything is changed. It makes me feel like I'm no longer a power user.
Threi
Reply #50 Monday, December 4, 2006 6:42 PM
Reply #50 Monday, December 4, 2006 6:42 PM
nvm i found that its a tie between kubuntu and ubuntu *politely gives the thread back*
bmetelsky
Reply #51 Monday, December 4, 2006 6:48 PM
Reply #51 Monday, December 4, 2006 6:48 PM
I'll probably purchase and install Vista within the next 6 months. Not before or right after Christmas, though.
Draginol
Reply #52 Monday, December 4, 2006 7:47 PM
Reply #52 Monday, December 4, 2006 7:47 PM
As a former OS/2 advocate, the market once had real options. Windows or OS/2. The market chose Windows.
Linux, IMO, is a joke as a desktop OS. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. It's technologically inferior in almost every sense. MacOS is a much more viable alternative but I don't like being locked into Apple for hardware and software.
As for Windows Vista, I plan to migrate most of my machines to it when it makes sense to. But the upgrade cost is too high to justify a single mass migration.
It annoys me to no end that Microsoft licenses are per machine rather than per user. I am the only one who uses 5 different PCs. There's no way I'm going to pay >$1,000 for the priviledge of upgrading to Vista. So I'll end up getting it only on select machines as needed.
The reasons I want Vista are many. For one thing, I am hoping Vista-64 is a lot better than XP 64 since I have a PC with 4 gigs of memory.
starkers
Reply #53 Monday, December 4, 2006 11:07 PM
Sorry for the off-topic Kona shots, ID, at the time I was thinking similarly to Phoon......
As is mine, Kona, but I find Vista RC2 to be equally as stable if not moreso. Also, Vista will search for recommended settings for programs that refuse to install, an advantage XP doesn't have. Granted, some proggies still don't install, but that's only a matter of some 3rd party devs catching up with Vista's coding....and when they do, it's gonna be one heck of an OS with huge potential.
For example Nero Premiun 7 runs faster and more efficiently on Vista than it does in XP, and with my Audigy 4 software also more efficient than in XP, all my media and backup jobs are now done in Vista.....and that's only the beginning. It has been said by some that Vista is just a GUI enhancement of XP, but there are many, many changes/improvements under the hood, so Kona, if you haven't already given Vista a test run, I recommend that you download yourself a copy of RC2 from MS and give it a whirl.
BTW, my wife is running PSP 8, Digital Image Pro, Paint.net and ArtRage 2 on Vista and all are performing very well. In fact, she prefers using them in Vista and says the graphics are much clearer/easier to work with, so you'd be able to get back to skin creation in Vista as well.
There's many complaining about Vista's price tag, and yeah, I'd like it to be somewhat lower, but I'm still gonna purchase it because I feel Vista Ultimate has the greatest potential of any OS ever made and will easily take us into the next decade....and when you add Stardock's suite of apps, given Vista's improved graphics rendering, not only will it be the most versatile, it'll be the most aesthetically pleasing OS as well.
Reply #53 Monday, December 4, 2006 11:07 PM
| Lets get back to the original topic please. I'm really was curious of what your plans are for Vista. |
Sorry for the off-topic Kona shots, ID, at the time I was thinking similarly to Phoon......
| it would be rude to start a thread titled " Let's all make Kona squirm!" Therefore, we must seize each golden opportunity that presents itself to us. |
| BTW my XP setup is very stable. |
As is mine, Kona, but I find Vista RC2 to be equally as stable if not moreso. Also, Vista will search for recommended settings for programs that refuse to install, an advantage XP doesn't have. Granted, some proggies still don't install, but that's only a matter of some 3rd party devs catching up with Vista's coding....and when they do, it's gonna be one heck of an OS with huge potential.
For example Nero Premiun 7 runs faster and more efficiently on Vista than it does in XP, and with my Audigy 4 software also more efficient than in XP, all my media and backup jobs are now done in Vista.....and that's only the beginning. It has been said by some that Vista is just a GUI enhancement of XP, but there are many, many changes/improvements under the hood, so Kona, if you haven't already given Vista a test run, I recommend that you download yourself a copy of RC2 from MS and give it a whirl.
BTW, my wife is running PSP 8, Digital Image Pro, Paint.net and ArtRage 2 on Vista and all are performing very well. In fact, she prefers using them in Vista and says the graphics are much clearer/easier to work with, so you'd be able to get back to skin creation in Vista as well.
There's many complaining about Vista's price tag, and yeah, I'd like it to be somewhat lower, but I'm still gonna purchase it because I feel Vista Ultimate has the greatest potential of any OS ever made and will easily take us into the next decade....and when you add Stardock's suite of apps, given Vista's improved graphics rendering, not only will it be the most versatile, it'll be the most aesthetically pleasing OS as well.
Saga Gemini
Reply #54 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 2:56 PM
Reply #54 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 2:56 PM
Even though the Windows OSes have a reputation of eating your system ressources like fries, I think the biggest issue with any new OS is application compatibility. At the time, I kept on using mainly Win98/WinME (the lattest brings back painful memories) for months even though WinXP was already on shelves. Simply because of uncompatible apps and games.
So I'll stick with my lattest beta of Vista installed as a secondary OS until I'm sure all my apps are supported.
As for stability, I think this issue was resolved with WinXP. Unless you start installing any available junk on the net.
The market chose Windows for us. As it generaly does.
So I'll stick with my lattest beta of Vista installed as a secondary OS until I'm sure all my apps are supported.
As for stability, I think this issue was resolved with WinXP. Unless you start installing any available junk on the net.
| The market chose Windows. |
The market chose Windows for us. As it generaly does.
ZubaZ
Reply #55 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 3:13 PM
Reply #55 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 3:13 PM
WinME is compatible with apps? Huh . . learn something new every day.
Phoon
Reply #56 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 3:37 PM
I happen to be in an environment which would suffer greatly if that were the case.
We have nearly 1000 users divided into 3 shifts. We have approx 500 workstations. Servers are quite another matter altogether. It makes more sense that it is per machine.
Reply #56 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 3:37 PM
| It annoys me to no end that Microsoft licenses are per machine rather than per user. |
I happen to be in an environment which would suffer greatly if that were the case.
We have nearly 1000 users divided into 3 shifts. We have approx 500 workstations. Servers are quite another matter altogether. It makes more sense that it is per machine.
speedy5662
Reply #57 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:53 PM
Reply #57 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:53 PM
Hey all,
Wow, good laughs for being derailed, rerailed, derailed, etc....
I have one major issue and a couple of minor issues with Vista.
1. HP does not have any FULL driver support for ANY of their printers. I own 2 HP printers.
When my best friend called them to find out if they would have drivers coming out soon, they responded as such; "We are having problems with creating drivers for Vista due to certain conflictions with IE 7." My buddy replied in saying that he is using IE 7 and that he has no problems withhis HP printer with IE 7 using windows XP. So the Question Of The Day is, What is the problem that HP really has?
2. The DRM thing with Media Player 11 is not a big issue considering that there is a million different "players" out there that don't deal with DRM as much.
3. This is not a big issue as more a HUGE ANNOYANCE, UAC of course. The UAC is A HUGE F***ing headache and should have been ditched.
So until number 1 is resolved, I say no way to Vista. Other than these things it's a good O.S.
Speedy
Wow, good laughs for being derailed, rerailed, derailed, etc....
I have one major issue and a couple of minor issues with Vista.
1. HP does not have any FULL driver support for ANY of their printers. I own 2 HP printers.
When my best friend called them to find out if they would have drivers coming out soon, they responded as such; "We are having problems with creating drivers for Vista due to certain conflictions with IE 7." My buddy replied in saying that he is using IE 7 and that he has no problems withhis HP printer with IE 7 using windows XP. So the Question Of The Day is, What is the problem that HP really has?
2. The DRM thing with Media Player 11 is not a big issue considering that there is a million different "players" out there that don't deal with DRM as much.
3. This is not a big issue as more a HUGE ANNOYANCE, UAC of course. The UAC is A HUGE F***ing headache and should have been ditched.
So until number 1 is resolved, I say no way to Vista. Other than these things it's a good O.S.
Speedy
starkers
Reply #58 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:20 PM
I made enquiries into this very issue as I have a HP 3-in-One and cannot use all of the software on Vista RC2....according to the customer rep I spoke with over the phone HP will have updated software and drivers for the ready for the public release.
BTW, Vista installed the drivers for my HP Photosmart C4180 and I can use all but the HP Director software....but I can call up the document/photo preview pages and print, etc, from there. Okay, it's not full support, as yet, but I'm still able to perform all the required functions using that software which is available and manually via the unit itself.
Reply #58 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:20 PM
| I have one major issue and a couple of minor issues with Vista. 1. HP does not have any FULL driver support for ANY of their printers. |
I made enquiries into this very issue as I have a HP 3-in-One and cannot use all of the software on Vista RC2....according to the customer rep I spoke with over the phone HP will have updated software and drivers for the ready for the public release.
BTW, Vista installed the drivers for my HP Photosmart C4180 and I can use all but the HP Director software....but I can call up the document/photo preview pages and print, etc, from there. Okay, it's not full support, as yet, but I'm still able to perform all the required functions using that software which is available and manually via the unit itself.
kona0197
Reply #59 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:05 PM
On this 1 GHz machine? No thanks. XP barely runs decent on this setup.
Matter of opinion. I've read more blogs and reports lately that state Vista will be the last OS M$ ever makes. Only time will tell.
And by the way the market didn't choose Windows. It was forced upon us by M$ offering cheap cheap prices to PC makers and then in turn they forced it upon us without telling anyone that there IS altenatives out there.
Sorry for the hijack.
Reply #59 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:05 PM
| It has been said by some that Vista is just a GUI enhancement of XP, but there are many, many changes/improvements under the hood, so Kona, if you haven't already given Vista a test run, I recommend that you download yourself a copy of RC2 from MS and give it a whirl. |
On this 1 GHz machine? No thanks. XP barely runs decent on this setup.
| There's many complaining about Vista's price tag, and yeah, I'd like it to be somewhat lower, but I'm still gonna purchase it because I feel Vista Ultimate has the greatest potential of any OS ever made and will easily take us into the next decade.... |
Matter of opinion. I've read more blogs and reports lately that state Vista will be the last OS M$ ever makes. Only time will tell.
And by the way the market didn't choose Windows. It was forced upon us by M$ offering cheap cheap prices to PC makers and then in turn they forced it upon us without telling anyone that there IS altenatives out there.
Sorry for the hijack.
Island Dog
Reply #60 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:09 PM
Reply #60 Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:09 PM
| Matter of opinion. I've read more blogs and reports lately that state Vista will be the last OS M$ ever makes. Only time will tell. |
What?
| And by the way the market didn't choose Windows. It was forced upon us by M$ offering cheap cheap prices to PC makers and then in turn they forced it upon us without telling anyone that there IS altenatives out there. |
Microsoft isn't required to tell anyone else about alternatives. Anybody can buy a PC and format the drive and put whatever they want on it.
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Reply #41 Monday, December 4, 2006 1:32 PM
Your welcome.
Let's see here. I'm using XP ATM. I use XP more than I use Linux. I don't hate MS - it takes to much energy to hate anything. I dislike MS's business practices and tactics. BTW my XP setup is very stable.
No offense taken. Thanks.