What is your plan for Windows Vista?
Buy new, Build, Upgrade, or Wait?
Thursday, November 30, 2006 by Island Dog | Discussion: Windows Vista
Now that Vista is a "reality" for some, meaning that business customers and some others can now get their hands on it, and the retail release is less than two months away. Do any of you have a "plan"? I'm still not sure what my plan is to be honest.
Right now I'm running a 2.8ghz Intel, with 1gig of RAM, and a Radeon 9800 Pro video card. It has served me well over the past couple of years, and some of the parts are very new including a sound card and lightscribe DVD burner. I could just add Vista to my second hard drive and run it from there, but I'm still not sure. With the parts on-hand I could build a Core 2 Duo system for real cheap, or just wait and save for later.
So how many of you plan to get Vista? If you do plan on getting it or already have it, are you going to install it on your current system, or build/buy new maybe? Let's hear it!
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kona0197
Reply #22 Monday, December 4, 2006 8:13 AM
Because Windows is pre-installed on every new computer out there and folks use it. They can't afford a Mac and don't know or want Linux. If PC vendors gave folks a choice at POS maybe we would see a change.
It's NOT an alliance. Educate yourself.
Reply #22 Monday, December 4, 2006 8:13 AM
| So Kona, answer me this....if Windows (any version) is unstable, unreliable and thus unsafe to use, why is it, then, the MOST popular OS out there? |
Because Windows is pre-installed on every new computer out there and folks use it. They can't afford a Mac and don't know or want Linux. If PC vendors gave folks a choice at POS maybe we would see a change.
| And Linux, well they're pretty much in development and have issues with mainstream 3rd party apps running on their distros....in the future perhaps, and maybe their new alliance with MS could see them progress toward something as versatile as Windows. |
It's NOT an alliance. Educate yourself.
ZubaZ
Reply #23 Monday, December 4, 2006 8:20 AM
It's preinstalled for a reason. Vendors think it's the best OS out there to make sales.
Reply #23 Monday, December 4, 2006 8:20 AM
| Because Windows is pre-installed on every new computer out there and folks use it. |
It's preinstalled for a reason. Vendors think it's the best OS out there to make sales.
Phoon
Reply #24 Monday, December 4, 2006 8:22 AM
When 99% of the software that people want to use is made for Windows, it would be a logical choice to choose a Mac or Linux.
It's a neverending circle. Windows is most popular, and the software is made for it because it is the most popular.
I agree with Starkers completely. Kona, you are always out in left field, gazing aimlessly into the spotlights. Someday a fly ball is going to konk you in the coconut if you don't pay more attention.
Reply #24 Monday, December 4, 2006 8:22 AM
| If PC vendors gave folks a choice at POS maybe we would see a change. |
When 99% of the software that people want to use is made for Windows, it would be a logical choice to choose a Mac or Linux.
It's a neverending circle. Windows is most popular, and the software is made for it because it is the most popular.
I agree with Starkers completely. Kona, you are always out in left field, gazing aimlessly into the spotlights. Someday a fly ball is going to konk you in the coconut if you don't pay more attention.
kona0197
Reply #25 Monday, December 4, 2006 9:00 AM
Reply #25 Monday, December 4, 2006 9:00 AM
Well I like to be different you know. Some of my points are valid.
Xythe
Reply #27 Monday, December 4, 2006 9:29 AM
This is simply bazaar. The XP installation on this PC is over 2-years strong, and has NEVER seen even one bluescreen.
Reply #27 Monday, December 4, 2006 9:29 AM
| Well part of my statement is a bit true. XP is proven as an unstable OS. From BSOD to viri to spyware. |
This is simply bazaar. The XP installation on this PC is over 2-years strong, and has NEVER seen even one bluescreen.
kona0197
Reply #30 Monday, December 4, 2006 10:39 AM
Think from a noobies point of view. Turn on PC. No Anti-Virus or Anti-Spyware. Adds up to an unstable XP.
Reply #30 Monday, December 4, 2006 10:39 AM
| This is simply bazaar. The XP installation on this PC is over 2-years strong, and has NEVER seen even one bluescreen. |
Think from a noobies point of view. Turn on PC. No Anti-Virus or Anti-Spyware. Adds up to an unstable XP.
ZubaZ
Reply #31 Monday, December 4, 2006 10:49 AM
Not true. It would be unsafe with potential to be unstable. That is not the fault of the OS.
And depending on the environment, it might even be safe. Maybe it's not attached to the internet. Maybe the ISP is doing viral scanning on their end?
Reply #31 Monday, December 4, 2006 10:49 AM
| Turn on PC. No Anti-Virus or Anti-Spyware. Adds up to an unstable XP. |
Not true. It would be unsafe with potential to be unstable. That is not the fault of the OS.
And depending on the environment, it might even be safe. Maybe it's not attached to the internet. Maybe the ISP is doing viral scanning on their end?
just john
Reply #33 Monday, December 4, 2006 12:02 PM
Reply #33 Monday, December 4, 2006 12:02 PM
I won't be upgrading them all but I have beta 2 running and as soon as I get RC1 in I am going to load it. I am ready for the release of Vista and I am running it on an average PC. I think I am at 2.8 on the Vista experience.
It still drives my 51' High Def as well as XP ever did.
Anybody worked with decoders in Vista. I loaded Nvidia Platinum because the stock decoder in Beta 2 expired. It works fine for DVD's but will not work with TV through media center. I get a decoder error. I know this will probably be a non issue once I put RC1 on but if the stock doesn't have the Dolby and DTS decoders I won't be using it.
It still drives my 51' High Def as well as XP ever did.
Anybody worked with decoders in Vista. I loaded Nvidia Platinum because the stock decoder in Beta 2 expired. It works fine for DVD's but will not work with TV through media center. I get a decoder error. I know this will probably be a non issue once I put RC1 on but if the stock doesn't have the Dolby and DTS decoders I won't be using it.
Island Dog
Reply #34 Monday, December 4, 2006 12:20 PM
How about no. What is your definition of an "unstable OS". I have run XP many times without AV without no problems. So just how does it become unstable?
Reply #34 Monday, December 4, 2006 12:20 PM
| Think from a noobies point of view. Turn on PC. No Anti-Virus or Anti-Spyware. Adds up to an unstable XP. |
How about no. What is your definition of an "unstable OS". I have run XP many times without AV without no problems. So just how does it become unstable?
Phoon
Reply #35 Monday, December 4, 2006 12:48 PM
be greeted with Linux, have no clue what to do, #$%k with it, crash it, go buy windows.
Hmmm... seems the instability in question is directly proportionate to the amount of idiocy navigating the keyboard and mouse.
Reply #35 Monday, December 4, 2006 12:48 PM
| Think from a noobies point of view. Turn on PC..... |
be greeted with Linux, have no clue what to do, #$%k with it, crash it, go buy windows.
Hmmm... seems the instability in question is directly proportionate to the amount of idiocy navigating the keyboard and mouse.
kona0197
Reply #36 Monday, December 4, 2006 12:57 PM
New Windows users are just as clueless. And Linux is easy to operate thank you. Anyhow I'm not going to argue about it.
Agreed.
Reply #36 Monday, December 4, 2006 12:57 PM
| be greeted with Linux, have no clue what to do, #$%k with it, crash it, go buy windows. |
New Windows users are just as clueless. And Linux is easy to operate thank you. Anyhow I'm not going to argue about it.
| Hmmm... seems the instability in question is directly proportionate to the amount of idiocy navigating the keyboard and mouse. |
Agreed.
ZubaZ
Reply #37 Monday, December 4, 2006 12:57 PM
A true noobie would be just as lost with Windows. I remember my users confusion when we went from Win 3.11 to Win95; instant confusion on an "intuitive" system. And don't get me started on MS Bob, another intuitive system.
The fact is though . .that there are very few noobies (at least in the US). Between Apple and Dell in the schools and PC's in some aspect at most jobs . . who isn't exposed to some level of computers in general and Windows specifically?
Reply #37 Monday, December 4, 2006 12:57 PM
| Think from a noobies point of view. Turn on PC..... be greeted with Linux, have no clue what to do, #$%k with it, crash it, go buy windows. |
A true noobie would be just as lost with Windows. I remember my users confusion when we went from Win 3.11 to Win95; instant confusion on an "intuitive" system. And don't get me started on MS Bob, another intuitive system.
The fact is though . .that there are very few noobies (at least in the US). Between Apple and Dell in the schools and PC's in some aspect at most jobs . . who isn't exposed to some level of computers in general and Windows specifically?
Phoon
Reply #39 Monday, December 4, 2006 1:18 PM
Ok, I'll give you that one.
They would also be just as confused trying to figure out which rectangular hole to plug the keyboard in to. (assuming USB that is)
Anyway... thanks for the fun Kona.
Reply #39 Monday, December 4, 2006 1:18 PM
| A true noobie would be just as lost with Windows. |
Ok, I'll give you that one.
They would also be just as confused trying to figure out which rectangular hole to plug the keyboard in to. (assuming USB that is)
Anyway... thanks for the fun Kona.
starkers
Reply #40 Monday, December 4, 2006 1:25 PM
How? You just let Kona at it for 5 minutes....bound to have disaterous results, given his penchant for Linux and intense dislike of MS. Anyone who's dabbled with linux that long will have forgotten how to use a decent/stable OS like XP, and with his ever present anti-MS sentiment, he's liable to sabotage it on purpose.
Disclaimer...I just couldn't help myself cos the missus forgot to pick up my meds from the pharmacy today....that's my story and I'm sticking to it
BTW Kona, I'm just joshing and intened it as a bit of fun, so I hope you take it in the tongue cheek spirit it was intended and do not take offense.
Reply #40 Monday, December 4, 2006 1:25 PM
| So just how does it become unstable? |
How? You just let Kona at it for 5 minutes....bound to have disaterous results, given his penchant for Linux and intense dislike of MS. Anyone who's dabbled with linux that long will have forgotten how to use a decent/stable OS like XP, and with his ever present anti-MS sentiment, he's liable to sabotage it on purpose.
Disclaimer...I just couldn't help myself cos the missus forgot to pick up my meds from the pharmacy today....that's my story and I'm sticking to it
BTW Kona, I'm just joshing and intened it as a bit of fun, so I hope you take it in the tongue cheek spirit it was intended and do not take offense.
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Reply #21 Sunday, December 3, 2006 11:55 PM
It can't be for the lack of trying by Apple/Mac...they've been trying unsuccessfully for years to increase their market share above to 8% to 10% OS-X is claimed to be the much safer, more productive OS, yet it falls well short in sales, as compared to Windows.
We must also consider the Linux distros...which are all FREE and available for everyone to install at will, whenever they like as often as they like. Surely that price tag should make Linux the most attractive OS out there, yet still languishes at the very bottom regarding market share.
Point is, MS must be doing something right to achieve a majority market share....and let's not get into the evil empire/anti-trust thing because consumers have options and are free to exercise them....and obviously do so, given that Apple and Linux both have loyal customers/fanbois and retain some portion of the market.
Every OS has its pros and cons, its up and down sides....not one of them is perfect, and I have no doubt Vista will have its fair share of bugs, etc....but, despite its high price tag, Vista will still outsell OS-X and outmarket Linux because - as I said before - Microsoft is doing that something right the others aren't.
Am I a MS fanboy? Nope, I just look at the bigger picture as see things as they really are. Windows sells better because MS constantly assesses the market and endeavours to create products that appeal/cater to the wider audience....whereas Steve Jobs is still too tied up in his own self importance and the exclusivity of the Mac to move towards what consumers really want at a fair price.....
And Linux, well they're pretty much in development and have issues with mainstream 3rd party apps running on their distros....in the future perhaps, and maybe their new alliance with MS could see them progress toward something as versatile as Windows.