Multiplicity 1.05 is out!!!

One more release until Mac OS X!!

Thursday, May 18, 2006 by ZubaZ | Discussion: Multiplicity

1.05 release
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-Updates to clipboard handler to account for secondaries
potentially being off and causing lag while pasting.
-Updates to connection code to account for secondaries
potentially being off when reconnecting.
-Tested against Windows Vista pre-release 5381 (x86 and x64).
Should remain happy on the upcoming Beta 2 build.
-Updated activate.exe to allow translation (activate.lng) and
added up-front checking for potentially invalid serials or
other customer issues.

-With the release of this version, the next set of
updates should include a beta of OS X support for Intel and PPC.


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mnix01
Reply #21 Monday, May 22, 2006 12:10 PM
I have to say, I'm pretty dissapointed. Looking at the features in this update, you're putting better checking to make sure people are paying for your product, support for an operating system that isn't out, nor will be for 6 months, and some cosmetic fixes. But wait, OS X support that has been promised for 2 years is coming REAL soon now, compared to soon 2 years ago. And......still no linux support. Vista will be out soon and take over much of the desktop replacement functionality, and if Synergy continues down the path they're on, at what point do I give up on Stardock for their lackadaisical attitude towards the customer and stop using their products altogether? Who knows, maybe there is nobody else that has wanted to combine PC's, Mac's, and linux, and the development has been better put towards things that make money. Then again, build it and they will come. I guess we'll find out when a company willing to focus on this area produces a quality product.

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Neil Banfield
Reply #22 Monday, May 22, 2006 2:37 PM

OSX support has not been promised for 2 years!  Multiplicity itself has only been out just over a year!

It seems strange that you complain about us adding Vista support (which is important as we have customers who use the betas of Vista as well as internal staff who use MP when developing on Vista), yet then say Vista will be out soon.

I am curious to know what you expected from a minor point release update.  Minor point releases are basically for fixes and minor tweaks.

Next on the development list is support for grid configurations and the OSX secondary support previously mentioned.  If there is anything else in particular you are interested in, then please let us know.

mnix01
Reply #23 Monday, May 22, 2006 3:48 PM
Well let's see. I purchased Multiplicity over a year ago. It was in development and beta long before that, with OS X support promised then. This forum has people asking in April of 2005 how much longer OS X support was going to take. Vista is in BETA. It is not a released product. What percentage of the population actually have their hands on it? Microsoft expects to release it in November of 2006. Considering OS X support has been "In development" since well before April of 2005, that's soon by those standards. Soon means, I expect Vista to be out before this finally happens.

Do I expect more from a minor point release? Per se, no, but I specifically purchased the produce over a year ago expecting what Stardock said was going to be "soon". What am I interested in? OS X support that has long been promised (when Vista was being called Longhorn, and had aero glass desktop displays). I'd also like Linux support. Stardock has said they have an internal linux and OS X version, and given OS X is BSD based, it can't be too difficult to have them both out.

Lets look at the forums here.
April 05, how much longer for OS X support?
June 05, we're busy moving.
June 05, in development should be in the 1.1 release. Timeline, This summer (05), we're moving, taking vacations, etc.
Sep 05, We're beta testing internally, it should show up soon.
Dec 05, (after numerous posts of when) Q1 of 06 Multiplicity 1.1 and OS X support
April 06, (after Q1) We've obtained an Intel mac and hope once Keepsafe is released we can release a beta.
May 06.......The next release is gonna do it, really. We promise this time.
Got a new timeline on that?

When you look at this history, perhaps you can understand the frustration of many. Yes, Apple's market share is 3.2%, and the people who have Macs and PC's, or Mac's and Linux and or all three is some fraction of that. But at least you could have taken the OS X in development off the Multiplicity page and let us know that it was the absolutely last thing on your list of things to do now, or anything else that might come up in the future. Heck, Keepsafe wasn't released till 4/10 and this was delayed yet again for that. We seem to be in the exact same position in April 06 as we were Jun of 05.

I'm sorry if you think I'm calling your baby ugly, but this is a business selling a commercial product, not something downloaded off of Sourceforge. If you promise something, deliver it, or someone else will and you will lose the loyalty of your customers. Then again, perhaps you've already looked at the numbers, and the market share of customers who care about this won't significantly impact your bottom line if they leave. We'll never really know. I can say that I had been prepared to purchase between 10 and 50 copies of Thinkdesk at my company (depending on demand), and specifically didn't because I felt I couldn't rely upon you. Given that we don't use Mac's, did this matter? Technically no, but if I can't trust a vendor, I'm not giving them my money. How many other people are there like me?



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JohnBianchi
Reply #24 Monday, May 22, 2006 9:32 PM
Well said.

I purchased Multiplicity to help development of a linux version, which I saw was in the works. As the talk of a Linux ver is without a release date, I now wonder if development has moved to other things and this may never come to pass.
ZubaZ
Reply #25 Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:00 AM
Please do not poke the dev until my problem is resolved.

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c242
Reply #26 Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:49 AM
Last time I had this happen I cured the problems installing the build from the seperate download instead of the one on SDC. I didn't have luck with that now.
c242
Reply #27 Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:11 PM
Okay, on one secondary (W2k3 Server) the 'Stardock Multiplicity' service isn't able to run. It is set to automatic start, but isn't started. When I try to start it I get 'Error : 216: 0xd8'
c242
Reply #28 Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:41 PM
2nd secondary (Notebook with XP) works.
ZubaZ
Reply #29 Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:44 PM
2nd secondary (Notebook with XP) works.


Can you run a global diff to find the difference? Neil has gotten awfully quiet.
c242
Reply #30 Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:54 PM
Well 2003 Server vs. XP, that is all.
c242
Reply #31 Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:35 AM
Okay. Done the following :

- Uninstalled MP on Server 2003
- reboot
- Deleted still present service from the registry
- reboot
- installed MP 1.05 from the standaloe file
- reboot

When I try to switch to the server, cursor is lost. Changing the order and switching to a secondary notebook works.
c242
Reply #32 Monday, May 29, 2006 4:13 AM
1.05.008 works like a charm now.
ZubaZ
Reply #33 Monday, May 29, 2006 6:54 AM
Confirmed

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SMRoe
Reply #34 Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:23 PM
Ok so how can I get 1.05.008? The link stardock sent me was for 1.05.0.0

Thanks
ZubaZ
Reply #35 Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:19 PM
Ok so how can I get 1.05.008? The link stardock sent me was for 1.05.0.0


If you install Stardock Central it will prompt you for updates.

https://www.stardock.com/products/sdcentral/


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SMRoe
Reply #36 Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:24 PM
This is a great way to get to this version. But, does that mean I have to install stardock central on any secondary machines just to put multiplicity on them as well?
Because I notice that Stardock Central installs but doesn't download an installation program.

Thanks
ZubaZ
Reply #37 Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:36 PM
You should install SDC on both PCs. It helps keep them in sync with MP.

You have opened SDC and clicked on the ThinkDesk section?
What version of MP do you see?

I don't think you need to enter your serial but you can go to Tools | Register products . .
Click on the Thinkdesk section and then choose MP from teh drop-down. Enter your serial and see if that sets you up.


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mnix01
Reply #38 Sunday, August 6, 2006 5:46 PM
Well, it's almost 3 months after the post saying next version will have OSX support (no date given). Since there was no response to my last post, I can only assume that you don't really have one to give. I got a notice today telling me my subscription runs out in 28 days. I go and check, still no OSX support, no update, nothing. Frustrated, I go ahead and download, install, configure, and run Synergy. Lo and behold, it works. Wow, Windows, OSX, and Linux support. I'm typing this on a virtual PC instantiation of XP on a Powermac using a Windows XP machine for the keyboard and mouse. Obviously not using Multiplicity though. As of today, Stardock has 28 days to regain my business. Otherwise my subscription lapses and I'll look to other companies for my needs. Perhaps you just don't care, but I've lost all faith in you. I was in Best Buy the other day, saw Galactic Civilizations on the shelf. Picked it up, looked at the box, said Hey, this looks like a cool game, where have I heard that name before, it's familiar. Read the box. OH....Stardock....put box back on the shelf and move on.

ZubaZ
Reply #39 Sunday, August 6, 2006 10:16 PM
From the MP history text: http://sdc2.stardock.com/public/mpp/beta/history.htm

1.05a beta
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-Added grid UI configuration to the Interface section. So you could
stack your physical monitors in other than a line. We're not going to
be adding stubs for multiple monitors on the primary machine for that in
terms of treating it as a separate primary monitor on the grid, but your
mouse focus will still transition over properly to whatever would be above
or below the primary.
-Connection handling adjustments to prep for the OS X beta -Tweaked 64-bit build
-Updated activation helper text


Keep up the good work Stardock. I expect that MP will work flawlessly with OSX, Vista, and
whatever flavor of linux I through at it.

If Synergy works for you, you're good, right? MP as you bought it worked as advertised. Wait or don't, it's your dime.

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