So many bugs - IE crashes, transparancy problems, display properties crashing, skin anomalies...
Monday, February 13, 2006 by Jez2k2 | Discussion: WindowBlinds
Sometimes, when I switch to (or from?) a skin that has taskbar transparancy, I can see the previous skin's taskbar underneath.
Some skin's top border transparancy is unclickable, meaning that when I try to drag a window, the cursor clicks whatever is underneath the border, like a desktop icon or whatever.
Some skins make some program's text unreadable or even invisible and I have to highlight it to read it. When I minimize and maximize or switch back and forth, the highlighted text is invisivle again. This effects the text and sometimes the grid in some download managers, within some program's windows, not the pull-down menus. General programs like IE don't produce this but others do.
Not all skins produce the errors above. I would say on average half do but the other half work fine.
Other problems I'm having:
Sometimes I have to apply skins twice because instead of switching they sort of merge with the previous skin, especially around the edges making the minimize/maximize & close buttons difficult to see or use.
Also when changing skins I can sometimes see pink edges along the top.
With WB loaded, after opening the display properties in control panel to change a setting like the wallpaper the window goes all white and hangs then I get a rundll32.exe error and it won't close.
Changing skins always makes IE crash so I have to make sure I have no websites on my desktop before I change a skin.
Some programs, like emule have an extra button in the top-right corner which become detached when using any type of skin.
And lastly, some skins make my pc reboot.
That's it, I think.
My system info says my pc is capable of per-pixel stuff if that's of any help.
Some skin's top border transparancy is unclickable, meaning that when I try to drag a window, the cursor clicks whatever is underneath the border, like a desktop icon or whatever.
Some skins make some program's text unreadable or even invisible and I have to highlight it to read it. When I minimize and maximize or switch back and forth, the highlighted text is invisivle again. This effects the text and sometimes the grid in some download managers, within some program's windows, not the pull-down menus. General programs like IE don't produce this but others do.
Not all skins produce the errors above. I would say on average half do but the other half work fine.
Other problems I'm having:
Sometimes I have to apply skins twice because instead of switching they sort of merge with the previous skin, especially around the edges making the minimize/maximize & close buttons difficult to see or use.
Also when changing skins I can sometimes see pink edges along the top.
With WB loaded, after opening the display properties in control panel to change a setting like the wallpaper the window goes all white and hangs then I get a rundll32.exe error and it won't close.
Changing skins always makes IE crash so I have to make sure I have no websites on my desktop before I change a skin.
Some programs, like emule have an extra button in the top-right corner which become detached when using any type of skin.
And lastly, some skins make my pc reboot.
That's it, I think.
My system info says my pc is capable of per-pixel stuff if that's of any help.
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ZubaZ
Reply #22 Monday, February 13, 2006 3:10 PM
The 60 days are to stop you from using the *TRIAL* and buy the program that you value.
It is interesting that the two apps taht you are haveing trouble with are often associated with warez or the transfer of other copyrighted material.
-=sigh=-
Reply #22 Monday, February 13, 2006 3:10 PM
| That could be because I often reinstall it after the 60 days are up |
The 60 days are to stop you from using the *TRIAL* and buy the program that you value.
It is interesting that the two apps taht you are haveing trouble with are often associated with warez or the transfer of other copyrighted material.
-=sigh=-
Hankers
Reply #23 Monday, February 13, 2006 3:11 PM
Reply #23 Monday, February 13, 2006 3:11 PM
Funny, 60 day "trial" should mean you try it for 60 days and if you like it , you buy it.
aimzzz
Reply #24 Monday, February 13, 2006 3:29 PM
Not all programs are compatible with WB. You might need to set this one to Excluded in the the Per Application section.
And go ahead & buy the program. Some of the features are limited in the trial version. You won't regret it...
Reply #24 Monday, February 13, 2006 3:29 PM
| In TorrentStorm, virtually the entire contents of the window are missing except for a few a few gauges. |
Not all programs are compatible with WB. You might need to set this one to Excluded in the the Per Application section.
And go ahead & buy the program. Some of the features are limited in the trial version. You won't regret it...
Jez2k2
Reply #25 Monday, February 13, 2006 4:51 PM
Reply #25 Monday, February 13, 2006 4:51 PM
Like I said before, that doesn't happen with every skin, only about half of them. The other half do not produce that problem.
If I were to consider buying WB based on it's performance then I would have to think twice after experiencing this kind of problem which only happens with some skins and not all of them. I have seen skins that DO work properly so I know it's not a "limitiation" of the shareware version.
How long does a licence go for anyway? Is it just the current version and the next one via upgrade, after which you have to buy it again?
If only msstyle skin makers were as innovative at design as WB skin makers are. If Quantria were ported to msstyles I'd probably just stick with that, heh.
If I were to consider buying WB based on it's performance then I would have to think twice after experiencing this kind of problem which only happens with some skins and not all of them. I have seen skins that DO work properly so I know it's not a "limitiation" of the shareware version.
How long does a licence go for anyway? Is it just the current version and the next one via upgrade, after which you have to buy it again?
If only msstyle skin makers were as innovative at design as WB skin makers are. If Quantria were ported to msstyles I'd probably just stick with that, heh.
ZubaZ
Reply #26 Monday, February 13, 2006 5:03 PM
Reply #26 Monday, February 13, 2006 5:03 PM
Last post to you from me until you stop stealing the software: https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/benefits/index.html
You get until version 6.
Or get a subscription to ODNT and get updates on a ton of apps until you let it lapse. It's a great deal.
You get until version 6.
Or get a subscription to ODNT and get updates on a ton of apps until you let it lapse. It's a great deal.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #27 Monday, February 13, 2006 5:20 PM
Reply #27 Monday, February 13, 2006 5:20 PM
You need support for a program you are using illegally and one of the problems is you can't see text on your bittorrent site?
Unflippinbelievable!
Unflippinbelievable!
ZubaZ
Reply #28 Monday, February 13, 2006 5:22 PM
And here i am . .. still trying . .. hoping for redemption . . .
-=sigh=-
Reply #28 Monday, February 13, 2006 5:22 PM
| You need support for a program you are using illegally and one of the problems is you can't see text on your bittorrent site? |
And here i am . .. still trying . .. hoping for redemption . . .
-=sigh=-
aimzzz
Reply #29 Monday, February 13, 2006 7:31 PM
Most of the trouble you are having is caused by repeatedly installing trial versions on top of each other. The problem is your performance, NOT WB!
Buy WB, but before you install it, back up your skins (the .wba files) somewhere and completely uninstall your old WB. After the uninstall, physically go in and delete the folder it was installed in. Reboot before installing the new version. I can guarantee that you will be amazed...
Reply #29 Monday, February 13, 2006 7:31 PM
| If I were to consider buying WB based on it's performance then I would have to think twice |
Most of the trouble you are having is caused by repeatedly installing trial versions on top of each other. The problem is your performance, NOT WB!
Buy WB, but before you install it, back up your skins (the .wba files) somewhere and completely uninstall your old WB. After the uninstall, physically go in and delete the folder it was installed in. Reboot before installing the new version. I can guarantee that you will be amazed...
Corky_O
Reply #30 Monday, February 13, 2006 7:55 PM
Reply #30 Monday, February 13, 2006 7:55 PM
If you do not know whether you want to use the program after 60 days, it is probably time to move on.
Jez2k2
Reply #31 Monday, February 13, 2006 8:08 PM
Reply #31 Monday, February 13, 2006 8:08 PM
A clean install of the latest trial version after deleting all traces of all previous trial installations cured most of the problems except for the invisible text in some programs (not IE as Night Train implied... I can see "sites" just fine). As for why I use the BT program TorrentStorm.. are you aware that while BT is notorious for sharing things that shouldn't be, there are plenty of legitimate freeware files available to download? For example single rar sets containing 100s or 1000s of user-made levels for games that otherwise would have to be downloaded individually, one at a time. It's a lot easier than jumping through hoops at the fileplanet website.
ZubaZ
Reply #32 Monday, February 13, 2006 8:31 PM
"I stole again"
"I don't use *THIS* app to steal. Wel . . . this porogram can be used for non-stealing applications . .. as well as stealing"
What an ass.
Reply #32 Monday, February 13, 2006 8:31 PM
| A clean install of the latest trial version after deleting all traces of all previous trial installations cured most of the problems except for the invisible text in some programs (not IE as Night Train implied... I can see "sites" just fine). |
"I stole again"
| As for why I use the BT program TorrentStorm.. are you aware that while BT is notorious for sharing things that shouldn't be, there are plenty of legitimate freeware files available to download? For example single rar sets containing 100s or 1000s of user-made levels for games that otherwise would have to be downloaded individually, one at a time. It's a lot easier than jumping through hoops at the fileplanet website. |
"I don't use *THIS* app to steal. Wel . . . this porogram can be used for non-stealing applications . .. as well as stealing"
What an ass.
Jez2k2
Reply #33 Monday, February 13, 2006 9:05 PM
Reply #33 Monday, February 13, 2006 9:05 PM
Weird logic.
Does owning a knife make you a murderer? Because a knife can be used to kill as well as not to kill, like cutting food.
By the way, how does installing trial versions count as "stealing"?
Maybe I should just switch to msstyles and avoid the flaming wrath against forum noobs like myself.
Does owning a knife make you a murderer? Because a knife can be used to kill as well as not to kill, like cutting food.
By the way, how does installing trial versions count as "stealing"?
Maybe I should just switch to msstyles and avoid the flaming wrath against forum noobs like myself.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #34 Monday, February 13, 2006 11:15 PM
acheeem, you mean, maybe you should go steal MSstyles also...
Reply #34 Monday, February 13, 2006 11:15 PM
| Maybe I should just switch to msstyles and avoid the flaming wrath against forum noobs like myself. |
acheeem, you mean, maybe you should go steal MSstyles also...
Jafo
Reply #35 Monday, February 13, 2006 11:32 PM
Reply #35 Monday, February 13, 2006 11:32 PM
Well...this thread went crap-ways fast...
Asides about an errant 'z' lend nothing to the thread topic, and presumptions that someone is 'stealing' are likely off-base as well.
If someone wants to go through hoops and try multiple installs of a trial to extend its life...more fool them, for the sake of $20 it's simply more a waste of effort than 'theft'.
| If only msstyle skin makers were as innovative at design as WB skin makers are. |
MSStyles are more limited than Windowblinds' capabilities, hence their generally inferior 'innovation'. The proggy is the issue, not the skill of the skinner/artist....
ZubaZ
Reply #36 Monday, February 13, 2006 11:56 PM
Reply #36 Monday, February 13, 2006 11:56 PM
I guess you and I define theft differently Jafo.
If I have a book on my desk that I let co-workers use and one person takes it and puts it on thier desk. I call that theft.
Do I think it's a big deal? Not so much. But does it raise my ire to have that person ask me to explain chapter 7 of thier book? You bet.
My mistake? Posting anything past post #26. Apologies to any and all.
If I have a book on my desk that I let co-workers use and one person takes it and puts it on thier desk. I call that theft.
Do I think it's a big deal? Not so much. But does it raise my ire to have that person ask me to explain chapter 7 of thier book? You bet.
My mistake? Posting anything past post #26. Apologies to any and all.
Jafo
Reply #38 Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:17 AM
Reply #38 Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:17 AM
| I guess you and I define theft differently Jafo. |
It's not about 'definition' it's about 'presumption of guilt'.
Much of what transpires on these boards is from/by/about 'noobs'....people who are unaware of the historical intricacies of WB5 warez-user requests for help, etc....and all they are doing is seeking assistance for a legitimate trialware issue, yet frequently they are prejudged and often erroneously.
It's always better to presume 'innocence'. That way no-one is a target for 'flaming wrath'...
Bichur
Reply #39 Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:26 AM
Reply #39 Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:26 AM
'tis true.
that and sharewares don't specifically mention when the trial runs out you are not allowed to ever reinstall it again.
that and sharewares don't specifically mention when the trial runs out you are not allowed to ever reinstall it again.
starkers
Reply #40 Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:02 AM
Jez2k2....same thing applies. To properly use msstyles. you need StyleXp, Starskin some other such program....each gives a trial period, but cease to function once that expires. To reactivate, you must either purchase or do an OS clean install...as your id is tagged/logged by the respective companies.
Oh, and by the way, I know of someone who ran a cracked copy of StyleXP...totally screwed his system......very expensive freebie.
There again, theres always that free uxtheme patch thing....but very restrictive, hardly seems worth the bother when 'even the limited' trial version of WB5 offered so very much more.
Your choice, but you only get what you pay for....with my bone fide 100% paid for version, not only do I get help and support with respect here on the forums, I can also go directly to Stardock and receive assistance from program developers and the like...not so with the repetitive downloading of a 60 day trial.
As I said your choice
Reply #40 Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:02 AM
Maybe I should just switch to msstyles |
Jez2k2....same thing applies. To properly use msstyles. you need StyleXp, Starskin some other such program....each gives a trial period, but cease to function once that expires. To reactivate, you must either purchase or do an OS clean install...as your id is tagged/logged by the respective companies.
Oh, and by the way, I know of someone who ran a cracked copy of StyleXP...totally screwed his system......very expensive freebie.
There again, theres always that free uxtheme patch thing....but very restrictive, hardly seems worth the bother when 'even the limited' trial version of WB5 offered so very much more.
Your choice, but you only get what you pay for....with my bone fide 100% paid for version, not only do I get help and support with respect here on the forums, I can also go directly to Stardock and receive assistance from program developers and the like...not so with the repetitive downloading of a 60 day trial.
As I said your choice
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Reply #21 Monday, February 13, 2006 3:07 PM
The trial version doesn't support transparency except in the skins that came with it.
That's by design
I'll hold off on any other help until you upgrade to the paid version. That should resolve some if not all of the issues. Otherwise we won't know what's what.