Gmail = bad
major security risk!!!
Tuesday, July 5, 2005 by Tominated | Discussion: Internet
Google has been naughty. They have kept every email that a gmail user has sent or recieved (the mail still got sent).
They have also been keeping the gmail users details. All of the emails and info have been kept on one helluva server. This is just to warn you.
They have also been keeping the gmail users details. All of the emails and info have been kept on one helluva server. This is just to warn you.
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Reply #23 Wednesday, July 6, 2005 10:23 PM
--Exactly, lately i've gotten about 30+ emails that are sent to people with similar names/emails..., at firs i didn't know who the sender was, thinking it was for me...well, i learned a few things, and have yet to open another email that looks suspicious...
Reply #23 Wednesday, July 6, 2005 10:23 PM
| People are so paranoid. Everytime you send an e-mail do you know where it goes and how many people could possibly have access to it? |
--Exactly, lately i've gotten about 30+ emails that are sent to people with similar names/emails..., at firs i didn't know who the sender was, thinking it was for me...well, i learned a few things, and have yet to open another email that looks suspicious...
Double Zero
Reply #24 Wednesday, July 6, 2005 10:30 PM
Reply #24 Wednesday, July 6, 2005 10:30 PM
Hey!, just because we cant see them out there doesnt mean they arent watching us,,im not paranoid..am I? well..if I put on my cheap sunglasses they wont even know my name...LoL
Big brother is watching little brother, little brother is watching back..Oh boy..what a fine mess the internet really is..
And this surprises who?
Pardon my vagueness..But I just love being so...LoL
It confuses whoever may be listening as well!
Big brother is watching little brother, little brother is watching back..Oh boy..what a fine mess the internet really is..
And this surprises who?
Pardon my vagueness..But I just love being so...LoL
It confuses whoever may be listening as well!
bakerstreet
Reply #25 Wednesday, July 6, 2005 10:32 PM
Reply #25 Wednesday, July 6, 2005 10:32 PM
The last time my ISPs email server crashed, I thought I had lost all my mail. Three days later they replaced it, only not only did I get my mail back, I got every email I had recieved for the last 6 months.
I'm thinking this kind of backup isn't rare, or skeery, unless you are discussing somethign that might provoke a search warrant.
I'm thinking this kind of backup isn't rare, or skeery, unless you are discussing somethign that might provoke a search warrant.
Tominated
Reply #26 Thursday, July 7, 2005 12:11 AM
Reply #26 Thursday, July 7, 2005 12:11 AM
I forgot to say that they can access the info whenever they like.
KC
Reply #27 Thursday, July 7, 2005 12:15 AM
Reply #27 Thursday, July 7, 2005 12:15 AM
Hmmm... interesting points, I agree with some of the 'both'. I only would say: Unless you have something to hide, you have nothing to fear.
Jos Corts
Reply #29 Thursday, July 7, 2005 12:35 AM
Reply #29 Thursday, July 7, 2005 12:35 AM
Ah YA ES SUFICIENTE¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
HOTMAIL, YAHOO¡¡ TODOS PUEDEN LEER Y TENER ACCESO A TUS CORREOS¡¡¡¡
COMO ES ESO DE TENER CIENTOS DE CORREOS EN TU SERVIDOR, Y NO VER ALGUNOS? NO SERÁ INTERESANTE¡ ADEMÁS, SÓLO NUNCA MANDEN SUS NÚMEROS DE TARJETA POR E-MAIL¡ Y YA
HOTMAIL, YAHOO¡¡ TODOS PUEDEN LEER Y TENER ACCESO A TUS CORREOS¡¡¡¡
COMO ES ESO DE TENER CIENTOS DE CORREOS EN TU SERVIDOR, Y NO VER ALGUNOS? NO SERÁ INTERESANTE¡ ADEMÁS, SÓLO NUNCA MANDEN SUS NÚMEROS DE TARJETA POR E-MAIL¡ Y YA
cal0140
Reply #30 Thursday, July 7, 2005 12:58 AM
Reply #30 Thursday, July 7, 2005 12:58 AM
lol wow, i'm glad public schools and our colleges are pushing foreign language study... it's nice not to have to refer to a translator for once!
thank you, captain obvious.
| I forgot to say that they can access the info whenever they like. |
thank you, captain obvious.
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Reply #31 Thursday, July 7, 2005 1:08 AM
-I can understand that, a friend of mine showed me ("baby stepped me") through servers, and what you do to set them up ro provide mail, so after having basic knowledge (have completely forgot it as i have no use of it anymore), i tried to start a email service...*coughs*...something went wrong with the sever, and the next thing i new, it crashed...lost everything.....wasn't pretty...thankfully not many signed up for the email...
Reply #31 Thursday, July 7, 2005 1:08 AM
| The last time my ISPs email server crashed, I thought I had lost all my mail. Three days later they replaced it, only not only did I get my mail back, I got every email I had recieved for the last 6 months. |
-I can understand that, a friend of mine showed me ("baby stepped me") through servers, and what you do to set them up ro provide mail, so after having basic knowledge (have completely forgot it as i have no use of it anymore), i tried to start a email service...*coughs*...something went wrong with the sever, and the next thing i new, it crashed...lost everything.....wasn't pretty...thankfully not many signed up for the email...
LeegleechN
Reply #32 Thursday, July 7, 2005 1:48 AM
Reply #32 Thursday, July 7, 2005 1:48 AM
I know Google can aggregate tons of information on me. However, I've never seen them misuse it. For now, Google has my support. Think of all the things they've done right (Text ads, massive email storage, brilliant search, great maps, google earth, etc. etc.). I trust them.
Also, for you tin foilists:
http://www.google-watch.org
Also, for you tin foilists:
http://www.google-watch.org
Jafo
Reply #33 Thursday, July 7, 2005 2:00 AM
Reply #33 Thursday, July 7, 2005 2:00 AM
| However, I've never seen them misuse it. |
Er...as if they would be likely to show you....
Dan Kaschel
Reply #34 Thursday, July 7, 2005 2:21 AM
Reply #34 Thursday, July 7, 2005 2:21 AM
I'm siding with Leegleech on this one. Google has done a good job holding to their "don't be evil" policy. I've never felt like the information that I've provided them has been misused. The products that they offer are solid and intuitive. The services they offer are effective. Until they give me a reason not to trust them, I'll stay loyal.
And privacy issues aside, storage rocks. I love the conversation idea... I have just one e-mail from each person I converse with in my inbox instead of the dozens that normally constitute a thread of conversation. But if I ever become a terrorist and start selling nuclear warheads to Asia, I'll be sure to switch servers. I appreciate the tip!
Dan
And privacy issues aside, storage rocks. I love the conversation idea... I have just one e-mail from each person I converse with in my inbox instead of the dozens that normally constitute a thread of conversation. But if I ever become a terrorist and start selling nuclear warheads to Asia, I'll be sure to switch servers. I appreciate the tip!
Dan
Double Zero
Reply #35 Thursday, July 7, 2005 3:54 AM
Now ya really went and did it Dan!!..you used the "Buzz" words that will definitely have the NSA checking you out for a few months...
Dont worry though, it's painless and you wont feel a thing..LoL..
Gotta watch what you say...tsk..tsk!
Reply #35 Thursday, July 7, 2005 3:54 AM
| But if I ever become a terrorist and start selling nuclear warheads to Asia, |
Now ya really went and did it Dan!!..you used the "Buzz" words that will definitely have the NSA checking you out for a few months...
Dont worry though, it's painless and you wont feel a thing..LoL..
Gotta watch what you say...tsk..tsk!
Island Dog
Reply #36 Thursday, July 7, 2005 7:00 AM
Reply #36 Thursday, July 7, 2005 7:00 AM
I can't believe get all paranoid about google, and other things.
Let's remember.
Every year I send the government a detailed list of my fianancial transaction, bank accounts, and all my work information. I also send them the names, ss numbers, and ages of my children and wife. I have to tell them where I live, how I paid for it, and what I'm using it for.
All this must be done by a certain date or I can be penalized, it's called Tax Day.
Anybody who really wants your information can get with with little or no problem. Anything you do on the internet has the chance to be read or copied by someone else. That's the internet. If you send a letter to someone through regular mail, someone can take that letter, open it, and have the same information. I understand keeping your eyes open, but this whole conspiracy thing is just ridiculous.
Let's remember.
Every year I send the government a detailed list of my fianancial transaction, bank accounts, and all my work information. I also send them the names, ss numbers, and ages of my children and wife. I have to tell them where I live, how I paid for it, and what I'm using it for.
All this must be done by a certain date or I can be penalized, it's called Tax Day.
Anybody who really wants your information can get with with little or no problem. Anything you do on the internet has the chance to be read or copied by someone else. That's the internet. If you send a letter to someone through regular mail, someone can take that letter, open it, and have the same information. I understand keeping your eyes open, but this whole conspiracy thing is just ridiculous.
Woodbridge
Reply #37 Thursday, July 7, 2005 8:07 AM
Reply #37 Thursday, July 7, 2005 8:07 AM
Anyone else find it ironic that Tominiated's email used to register here is a Gmail one 
Jafo
Reply #38 Thursday, July 7, 2005 8:09 AM
Reply #38 Thursday, July 7, 2005 8:09 AM
Apprentice Island Dog ...here's the thing....people 'expect' their Govt will have data on their constituents....comes with the territory....
Now....what if some sibling perhaps types into Google on your comp....linkable to you....just as a prank....'kiddie porn' or some such phrase...and the behemoth of data gathering that is Google has that associated with your name.....yes...it's totally feasible....and a subsequent investigation ensues....maybe even years later...the incident long-forgotten...or even unknown to you....?
It's not just who is gathering it....but what it is they gather.....and don't ignore/forget the power of the search engine to put 2 and 2 together and get 5.
It's worse than GIGO, you know...
Island Dog
Reply #39 Thursday, July 7, 2005 9:12 AM
I'm sorry Jafo, but I'm just not paranoid. I know the risks of surfing the internet, and in all reality there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Except not be on the internet.
Is everything you said feasible, sure it is. Is it probable, most likely not. Am I going to run around paranoid thinking everybody is watching me, absolutely not.
Reply #39 Thursday, July 7, 2005 9:12 AM
| Now....what if some sibling perhaps types into Google on your comp....linkable to you....just as a prank....'kiddie porn' or some such phrase...and the behemoth of data gathering that is Google has that associated with your name.....yes...it's totally feasible....and a subsequent investigation ensues....maybe even years later...the incident long-forgotten...or even unknown to you....? |
I'm sorry Jafo, but I'm just not paranoid. I know the risks of surfing the internet, and in all reality there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Except not be on the internet.
Is everything you said feasible, sure it is. Is it probable, most likely not. Am I going to run around paranoid thinking everybody is watching me, absolutely not.
Jafo
Reply #40 Thursday, July 7, 2005 10:46 AM
Reply #40 Thursday, July 7, 2005 10:46 AM
Head in the sand, lad...you don't see them...ergo they are not looking at you....
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Reply #21 Wednesday, July 6, 2005 10:09 PM