Support the war, sure...But Support the RIGHT One!!

Saturday, June 18, 2005 by Gideon MacLeish | Discussion: Politics

The following is from the Libertarian Party website. Just another example of how when taxes are added, they are virtually never repealed even when their purpose is served!

 

 

Your contribution to the Spanish-American War


A hundred and seven years ago, in 1898, the federal government began levying a temporary 3 percent excise tax on telephones, ostensibly to fund the Spanish-American War.

 

Flash forward to 2005 -- and every American with a telephone is still paying this "temporary" tax. The war was over after just a few months, but the tax has been in effect for over a century. On top of that, the tax does not go for any specific purpose. Rather, the funds are simply added to the general fund.

 

Congress attempted to repeal the tax in 2000. Both the House and the Senate passed legislation to eliminate the tax -- it was a 420-2 vote in the House -- but then-President Bill Clinton vetoed the bill when it reached his desk.

 

Once again, the House has been presented with a bill -- H.R. 1898 -- that would repeal the tax on telephone and other communications services. The bill was introduced in late April by Rep. Gary G. Miller of California, and has been cosponsored by 39 other congressmen. It currently sits in the House Committee on Ways and Means.

 

The outrage?

 

This tax should have been repealed more than a century ago, but some members of Congress still support the tax -- and some even want to expand it. Congress' Joint Committee on Taxation issued an opinion in January, saying that the tax could be expanded to apply to wireless Internet and data connections.

 

If you're tired of paying to support a war that ended 107 years ago, click here to join the Libertarian Party, which is working with other friends of the American taxpayer to eliminate this type of governmental lunacy

Dr Guy
Reply #1 Saturday, June 18, 2005 5:06 PM

Gid, no tax is temporary.  There is a tax now that was enacted iun the 90s for the wiring of Schools and Libraries to the internet.  Guess what?  They are wired.  Is the tax now gone?

No way, Jose!

1tomot1
Reply #2 Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:17 PM
the Libertarian Party


Ah yes, the Libertarian party. My personal favorite right-wing anarchists.
Chakgogka
Reply #3 Saturday, June 18, 2005 7:29 PM
Gid, no tax is temporary.


United Kingdom: Income Tax introduced temporarily by William Pitt the Younger to fund war with France - 1798
Napoleon meets his Waterloo - 1815
Income Tax still with us - 2005
Dr Guy
Reply #4 Sunday, June 19, 2005 9:12 AM
United Kingdom: Income Tax introduced temporarily by William Pitt the Younger to fund war with France - 1798
Napoleon meets his Waterloo - 1815
Income Tax still with us - 2005


England is not that much different. Just has a longer history!
Gideon MacLeish
Reply #5 Monday, June 20, 2005 11:28 AM

My personal favorite right-wing anarchists.

MINarchists. Of course there are a few anarchists in our ranks, but most of us are truly minarchists.

Justice For Jews
Reply #6 Monday, June 20, 2005 11:47 AM
"England is not that much different..."

But what about the rest of the Unified Kingdome, we never hear about them, many of them are non-heterosexual.

Dr Guy that was VERY RACIST to try and make out that England is the only country in the Unified Kingdome.
1tomot1
Reply #7 Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:53 PM
Of course there are a few anarchists in our ranks


It's just very funny how a politic brought to the fore by the extreme left can end up as the mirror image of itself down the road. I would laugh to see the originators of the politic spinning in their graves to find what they started ended up at the other end of the spectrum.

Perhaps that says something about extremes. Hard left and hard right are truly just two sides of the same coin as opposed to a different coin altogether.


1tomot1
Reply #8 Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:53 PM
Of course there are a few anarchists in our ranks


It's just very funny how a politic brought to the fore by the extreme left can end up as the mirror image of itself down the road. I would laugh to see the originators of the politic spinning in their graves to find what they started ended up at the other end of the spectrum.

Perhaps that says something about extremes. Hard left and hard right are truly just two sides of the same coin as opposed to a different coin altogether.


ParaTed2k
Reply #9 Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:03 PM
So that's what the Good ol' Boys mean when they say, "The South Will Rise Again". The taxes for the civil war must still be going into some kind of CSA defense fund! ;~D
Moderateman
Reply #10 Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:24 PM
the more tax the politicians get the happier they are. ore money to waste.
Dr Guy
Reply #11 Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:10 AM
Perhaps that says something about extremes. Hard left and hard right are truly just two sides of the same coin as opposed to a different coin altogether.


2 wrongs dont make a right, but 3 rights make a left.
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Reply #12 Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:46 AM
2 wrongs dont make a right, but 3 rights make a left.


--Really!? I always thought it was three rights make hell for a left...
Dr Guy
Reply #13 Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:57 AM
--Really!? I always thought it was three rights make hell for a left...


Ah, come on Professor Baily. Didn't your mother ever teach you that?

You must never have been to NJ either.
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Reply #14 Friday, June 24, 2005 12:23 AM
Ah, come on Professor Baily. Didn't your mother ever teach you that?

You must never have been to NJ either.


Actually, it was conservatism is the best way...I met my first truely liberal person when i was 16, and she was a girl i dated...she was wild!...we keep in touch, she lives in L.A and has a career in acting... as for being to NJ, nope, the futhest east i've been in the usa is nebraska, but i could see the atlantic when i was in omaha (a bit of humor, the land is too freaking flat...) Internationally i have been to germany, australia, egypt, and russia...they were fun trips, (i hope to visit italy, as i have a friend that is in rome studying at a university, have been friends since i was 16...)
ParaTed2k
Reply #15 Friday, June 24, 2005 1:04 AM
Perhaps that says something about extremes. Hard left and hard right are truly just two sides of the same coin as opposed to a different coin altogether.


I don't think it's about the sides of the coin, but the edge.

Freedom lies on the edge at one point, the further you go either to the left or the right brings you to totalitarianism.

If you have no freedom, does it really matter if it was liberal or conservative extremes that cost them?
kingbee
Reply #16 Friday, June 24, 2005 1:18 AM
this is the very tax used to pay the rent and utilities for guantanamo.
NJforever
Reply #17 Friday, June 24, 2005 1:33 AM
Well, Gid, we have to be prepared! Have you seen those Spaniards lately? They're ready to go! They'll pounce at any moment!
Gideon MacLeish
Reply #18 Friday, June 24, 2005 11:56 AM

NJ...yeah, them Spaniards have a reputation:

(Inigo): "I could give you my word as a Spaniard"

(Dread Pirate Roberts/Wesley): "No good. I've known too many Spaniards".

Sounds like this tax is the price of eternal vigilance (lol)

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