Testing Out Linux. Part 1

A windows users' journey into the world of Linux

Thursday, May 19, 2005 by thedon808 | Discussion: OS Wars

I've known about GNU/Linux , and the whole open source thing, for sometime now. About a year ago I bought the 'Dummies Guide to Fedora Rore1' book. Hoping to get more into using Linux and also as my girl friend worked on Saturdays (the only day I could go to visit) I spent a lot of time in the town, so this book gave me something to do. I spent a few weeks flicking through it reading bits and pieces I then decided to try it out. I installed it on my test PC an old PII 350Mhz 128ram 3Gb drive. The install process of Fedora is quite easy with a nice GUI installer guiding you through what packages you want installed etc. After it had done its business installing, about 45-60mins install time, I was thrown into the deep end, with a rather dated looking desktop theme, my first mission was to connect to my main XP PC.
'Ok, how do I do that? Ah ha network tool. Oh, no card installed! Humm ok! Well I tried, where's my XP CD?'

So my first venture into Linux wasn't too successful.

After getting married and moving house I thought it would be great to have a file server for our music etc. I had already set up a network between my PC, my wife's, and her Mac. So adding a file server should be easy enough. Again out comes the old PII install Fedora on it again. This time I was more careful what I installed as I needed more space rather than toys, after the install I checked the space left on the 3Gb drive, only 400 or so Mb. Well there goes my conception that Linux was a smaller operating system than XP.
So now I'm on the hunt for a smaller distro, so google for 'lightweight Linux distro' all I come up with are the tiny distros eg50Mb. What I was after was something a little more fuller but not bloated. Then I came across Distrowatch.com in the packages list Ubuntu had all I needed, apache, php, samba, etc. and its on one CD (Fedora Core 3 is 4 CD's).
So set it up downloading overnight. The next night I had planned to install it (as long it downloaded ok, which it did). The next night I burnt it to CD and then got carried away designing a cover to print onto the CD. That was a week ago, last night I actually did the install. Even though it hasn't got a fancy installer like Fedora I actually found it easier than I thought to install. The only hard bit would have been disk partitioning but as it had Fedora on it previously I just reformatted the partitions that were already there. The only down side to the installation was the time, over 2 hours later I eventually had the login screen in front of me, (my only worry was I didn't remember putting the root password in?) anyhow login fine.
First objective, check root password, 'Great the same as my login password, really secure!' So promptly change it and then have a little nose around, the GUI still isn't as nice as XP or OSX it still needs some work, I then check the network, well the internet works so looks hopeful.
Next objective set up shared folder on the network. 'Oh, samba isn't installed'. At that point I decided to leave it for another day, as it was an hour later than I was expecting due to the lengthy install time.

More progress to follow as it happens.
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werewolf
Reply #41 Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:56 PM
I've got Slack bookmarked

I'll tell you what, it's a whole new bunch of words to learn and I hope I'm not too old to learn a whole new OS
kona0197
Reply #42 Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:19 PM
I'll be trying Ubuntu soon as the free CD's get to me.
MasonM
Reply #43 Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:20 PM
I'll tell you what, it's a whole new bunch of words to learn and I hope I'm not too old to learn a whole new OS

Nah, you can do it. Just remember it isn't Windows, don't expect it to be the same and you'll be fine. Keep an open mind. If you want to learn more, ask questions, etc., check out www.linuxquestions.org
werewolf
Reply #44 Monday, May 23, 2005 1:26 AM
well, here I am, dual booted into linux. I installed the mepis stuff, but my desktop looks like KDE. I don't quite grasp the concept. So is this mepis wrapped around the linux kernel with KDE GUI wrapped around that?

Yeah, yeah I'll check out that website, but tomorrow...errr later today after work
PurrBall
Reply #45 Monday, May 23, 2005 5:51 AM
KDE is a desktop environment. You have to have one, otherwise its a dos-style prompt.

The different distros just offer different software, customizations like wallpapers, etc..... (Like the Berry cute cat)
XX
Reply #46 Monday, May 23, 2005 10:56 AM
X windows and shell is 2 seprate programs. Don't like KDE? You can change the shell.

I'm currently using XFCE. It's much more lighter than KDE, which is very important on 500 mhz 56 mb ram laptop. It also has everything I need and none I don't need.
werewolf
Reply #47 Monday, May 23, 2005 6:51 PM
good grief!! I was poking around in the files and have no idea how this stuff is all setup. I had to update to the 1.04 Firefox, but I couldn't find where the original files were installed LOL. Hopefully I'll be able to find some site which will explain what all those directories are and how the OS is laid out on the disk.

How do I get that Winamp looking player to see my drives where my music is stored? Can't get out of the Linux partition with its open dialog box.
tjesterb
Reply #48 Monday, May 23, 2005 7:00 PM
linuxquestions.org

linuxbeginner.org seems to be down and the url redirects to some search page.
werewolf
Reply #49 Monday, May 23, 2005 9:20 PM
I'm at linux.org/lessons Mostly talking about terminal commands at the moment. But it did explain what those dang folders are.

Some of the term commands are nicely familiar to an old DOS guy.
werewolf
Reply #50 Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:55 AM
I have one quick question and, I promise, I will be researching everything else on my own as much as possible and won't be an lnp (linux newbie pest )

Is there a linux media player which plays .wma files, other than xine?

I'm just trying to get my daughters basic computers needs completely solved before I install linux on her machine. This distro has everything else she needs already.

Thank you
paxx
Reply #51 Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:59 PM
My favorite audio player is Amarok: http://amarok.kde.org/ Try it, absolutely awsome. It supports every format that's intalled on your computer (in other words, if you have already something that will play wma, such as Xine, then Amarok will play it).
kona0197
Reply #52 Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:05 PM
Paxx - does it support MP3 and MPEG playback? I'm looking for a Linux player that plays everything WMP will.

How do I install it?
paxx
Reply #53 Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:16 PM
BTW, I think you said earlier you installed SimplyMepis? Then use the Synaptic Package Manager to install or upgrade Amarok, it will be seamless.
paxx
Reply #54 Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:22 PM
Kona, it doesn't install any codec. It will play all the codecs installed on your computer.
I know that some distributions such as Fedora or Redhat don't ship with MP3 decoders due to patenting issues. But I know that SimplyMepis and other Debian based distros will. In any case, with Fedora/RedHat, you can always install MP3 playback doing the following:
Alt-F2, gg:redhat mp3 kde, ENTER
kona0197
Reply #55 Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:25 PM
I'll be using Unbuntu soon. I really don't like Fedora.
tjesterb
Reply #56 Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:34 PM
I tried the Kubuntu for a while (didn't care for it that much and installed SuSE 9.2 instead, my favorite distro so far) but I seem to remember it being a Debian build, so you should be able to install Amorak.
werewolf
Reply #57 Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:46 PM
Thank Paxx. Amarok was listed, but there was no package. I added another source and was able to get version 1.2.3-1 installed. I scanned my library on my windows partition ok, but it won't recognize or play .wma files. How do I do that?
MasonM
Reply #58 Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:59 PM
While the wma file format is a proprietary micro$oft format, Mplayer will play them and just about anything else. You can use the Synaptic Package Manager to install it. Mplayer will play just about everything including DVD.
werewolf
Reply #59 Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:04 PM
Grrr, I can't edit my post.

I can get amarok to play the wma files if I go there and select them, but I can't figure out how to get all of it in my 'Collection'
MasonM
Reply #60 Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:41 PM
There should be some way to set up play lists. I don't use Amarok so not sure. I mostly use RealPlayer, xmms, and xine.

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