How do I keep my kids off Google?
Monday, March 14, 2005 by Hazylunarrain | Discussion: Google
I have a problem... I use a filter to keep my kids from seeing things on the net that they shouldn't. However, I find my middle son sitting in front of the computer doing searches and STILL getting nude pictures. I mean.. Some of these are kinda trashy! Can anyone help me find a way to block out google? Or am I doomed to failure?
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paxx
Reply #22 Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:21 PM
Reply #22 Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:21 PM
I am quite an open minded person about everything, including erotic pictures (porn is different from erotica). But webgizmos, what WE found a way to get out hands on was (1)quite difficult to get in the first place and (2)nothing like the trash you can see on the Net today involving human wastes, animals, children and violence where there is nothing erotic about.
Yes, I understand his concern, and would my own boys be a little older I would indeed be very concerned as well. I would totally freak out if I saw my son watching some of the picture not too hard to find "out there".
Of course, as a parent, you should talk to your kids, but some things we prefer not to mention. Heck I had no idea about "certain sexual activities" before I was in my early adulthood. Who wants to talk about sexual behaviors involving human wastes with their 10 year old?
Yes, I understand his concern, and would my own boys be a little older I would indeed be very concerned as well. I would totally freak out if I saw my son watching some of the picture not too hard to find "out there".
Of course, as a parent, you should talk to your kids, but some things we prefer not to mention. Heck I had no idea about "certain sexual activities" before I was in my early adulthood. Who wants to talk about sexual behaviors involving human wastes with their 10 year old?
WebGizmos
Reply #23 Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:25 PM
Reply #23 Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:25 PM
I hear ya Paxx...the stuff on the net these days really shows the dregs of society, and most of it shocked the hell out of me. And really the bottomline is, the only way to shield your kids from it is to not have a pc. If I caught my daughter looking at this stuff I would totally freak out (to put it lightly) as well.
Hazylunarrain
Reply #24 Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:08 AM
Reply #24 Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:08 AM
Lol. Just wait guys... Wait till their 14 lmao. Naaa, It's not really that bad with him so far. Just "innocent" nudie pics. Nothing you know, far fetched 
. At any rate, I have since discussed everything with him, and I hope he REALLY understands how I feel about these things and knows that he can come to me with ANY questions ANY time. But yeah, It is still nerve wracking being forced to realized he's not my "baby" anymore (as if,lol)
. At any rate, I have since discussed everything with him, and I hope he REALLY understands how I feel about these things and knows that he can come to me with ANY questions ANY time. But yeah, It is still nerve wracking being forced to realized he's not my "baby" anymore (as if,lol)
ethsza
Reply #25 Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:46 AM
Reply #25 Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:46 AM
Well, I guess after all this discussion you'll first try to decide if you want to block sites or not.
If yes, I'd go for the easiest way. Edit your hosts file on your PC. On my win2k box its path is:
C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
This is a plain ascii file, edit it with your notepad, and add entries like this:
127.0.0.1 www.google.com
127.0.0.1 images.google.com
127.0.0.1 www.yahoo.com
and so on, with whatever sites you fancy to block. This will preceed the DNS lookup, and the browser will fail to find these addresses on your local machine. (I usually block the aggressive ad sites, or used to before swithing from IE to Mozilla Firefox, but that's another story.)
If your kids will find out how to circumvent this, they deserve those boobs.
Disclaimer: this is a trick hint, not my view about the original problem.
If yes, I'd go for the easiest way. Edit your hosts file on your PC. On my win2k box its path is:
C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
This is a plain ascii file, edit it with your notepad, and add entries like this:
127.0.0.1 www.google.com
127.0.0.1 images.google.com
127.0.0.1 www.yahoo.com
and so on, with whatever sites you fancy to block. This will preceed the DNS lookup, and the browser will fail to find these addresses on your local machine. (I usually block the aggressive ad sites, or used to before swithing from IE to Mozilla Firefox, but that's another story.)
If your kids will find out how to circumvent this, they deserve those boobs.
Disclaimer: this is a trick hint, not my view about the original problem.
Looci
Reply #26 Thursday, March 17, 2005 12:32 PM
Reply #26 Thursday, March 17, 2005 12:32 PM
Well, if your a parent its a different concern, you gotta have a big chat. So then they dont go on it. Well at my school theres this filter called Bess. So yeah. 
Hazylunarrain
Reply #27 Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:46 PM
Reply #27 Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:46 PM
There is a list of files by that name/type in my system32 folder. I don't think it's really a problem after the discussion I had with him. At least if he still is looking at anything it's nothing more harmful than the occasional frontal shot. He's mostly a good kid so I don't foresee any problems. But I will keep these useful tips in mind if it does get outta hand tho.
ethsza
Reply #28 Friday, March 18, 2005 6:10 AM
Reply #28 Friday, March 18, 2005 6:10 AM
yep, keep this in mind when your internet bank account suddenly decreases, and the kid arrives home driving a fancy corvette convertible 
ethsza
Reply #29 Friday, March 18, 2005 6:12 AM
Reply #29 Friday, March 18, 2005 6:12 AM
Actually in the /etc folder (per definition) there's only one file called "hosts", having no file-extensions.
Hazylunarrain
Reply #30 Friday, March 18, 2005 10:21 AM
Is that where the 4-wheeler came from!! I knew something fishy was goin on lol. I have windows XP btw. I'll do a search later, but I don't remember coming across anthing like that. I'll etcha know tho
Reply #30 Friday, March 18, 2005 10:21 AM
| yep, keep this in mind when your internet bank account suddenly decreases, and the kid arrives home driving a fancy corvette convertible |
Is that where the 4-wheeler came from!! I knew something fishy was goin on lol. I have windows XP btw. I'll do a search later, but I don't remember coming across anthing like that. I'll etcha know tho
AgentM00007
Reply #31 Monday, March 21, 2005 7:01 PM
Umm... If you go to a differnet port, (which mst serers have, you can get around Bess very easily. I made a Flash MX thig that my schol didn't like, there wasn't anything bad, except for a couplle dozen raccoons eatig a stick guy (poor quality). My Nerd frends got me to it by typing some port # or another. It wasn't hard. Also, there was this 9oogle.tk thig that put a frame on the page, so you could go anywhere.
Reply #31 Monday, March 21, 2005 7:01 PM
| Well at my school theres this filter called Bess. So yeah. |
Umm... If you go to a differnet port, (which mst serers have, you can get around Bess very easily. I made a Flash MX thig that my schol didn't like, there wasn't anything bad, except for a couplle dozen raccoons eatig a stick guy (poor quality). My Nerd frends got me to it by typing some port # or another. It wasn't hard. Also, there was this 9oogle.tk thig that put a frame on the page, so you could go anywhere.
Poddytat
Reply #32 Monday, March 21, 2005 10:40 PM
Reply #32 Monday, March 21, 2005 10:40 PM
My father was a network administrator at Ft.Hood, TX before he passed away, and he told me porn was the biggest problem there too. Strange, eh? I hope you figure out a way to stay a step ahead of your young uns, because Lord knows they can be some devious little buggers.
Hazylunarrain
Reply #33 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:18 AM
Reply #33 Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:18 AM
Yeah... Most of the time I think they do it just to spite me. I love them to death, but sometimes I wanna make that literal lmao. But nooo... They way I look at it now, is if he's using his skills to "outdo" me then hopefully he'll do so in the future as well! (more positivly that is)
lmao. But nooo... They way I look at it now, is if he's using his skills to "outdo" me then hopefully he'll do so in the future as well! (more positivly that is)
SSOne
Reply #34 Wednesday, March 23, 2005 6:19 AM
Reply #34 Wednesday, March 23, 2005 6:19 AM
Is https://forums.joeuser.com/ a parter to this site? If not how and why do they have this exact forum with the same posts?
SSOne
Reply #35 Wednesday, March 23, 2005 6:31 AM
Reply #35 Wednesday, March 23, 2005 6:31 AM
o nvm Hazylunarrain is a member to joeuser so they took mike's post from here.
Hazylunarrain
Reply #36 Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:01 AM
Reply #36 Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:01 AM
Yeah.. Thats what happened. And btw... How did you know my name is Mike? 
I feel so included...lol
I feel so included...lol
SSOne
Reply #37 Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:13 AM
Reply #37 Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:13 AM
I found it on JoeUser..ur page is called "Mikes Page" or something like that.
Hazylunarrain
Reply #38 Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:48 AM
Reply #38 Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:48 AM
Yeah, I tried to change it to the same thing I have it set here at WinCustomize... But I haven't found how to yet. I like "Palace of Hazylunarrain" much better.
75th Trombone
Reply #40 Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:12 PM
Reply #40 Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:12 PM
If you want to block search engines, you might as well disallow the internet, period.
Only blocking certain sites is NOT effective punishment -- it's a stopgap until he finds a new way around your measures, at which point he will be MORE reinforced for subverting you.
If you actually want to stop the behavior, don't let him use the internet for a month or two. Keep monitoring him when his punishment's over. Reinforce him whenever he uses his time --- internet and otherwise --- constructively.
And most importantly, figure out the weakness in your parenting that made porn seem like a worthwhile risk to him. Tell him what it was. Explain to him the real reasons why he shouldn't be looking at porn. ("Because I say so" is NOT good enough. You need to be building credibility, not depleting it further.)
Come to a calm, honest, loving agreement with him about his internet usage. If he breaks that, you've got WAY bigger problems than internet porn.
Only blocking certain sites is NOT effective punishment -- it's a stopgap until he finds a new way around your measures, at which point he will be MORE reinforced for subverting you.
If you actually want to stop the behavior, don't let him use the internet for a month or two. Keep monitoring him when his punishment's over. Reinforce him whenever he uses his time --- internet and otherwise --- constructively.
And most importantly, figure out the weakness in your parenting that made porn seem like a worthwhile risk to him. Tell him what it was. Explain to him the real reasons why he shouldn't be looking at porn. ("Because I say so" is NOT good enough. You need to be building credibility, not depleting it further.)
Come to a calm, honest, loving agreement with him about his internet usage. If he breaks that, you've got WAY bigger problems than internet porn.
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Reply #21 Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:04 PM