Litestep problem....

Tuesday, April 22, 2003 by MotoHota | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

After applying a certain Litestep theme, all my windows bars disapeared. Clicking the mouse does nothing, and the keyboard does nothing (Except for the CTRL-ALT-DELETE function).

I do not have the windows disc (My windows version is 98 SE), so I cannot reinstall windows... or at least I don't know how to without the disc. I don't want my computer to be gone forever (Obviously), so.......any help? This is terrible. I'm on a friend's computer right now.
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Tech Cat
Reply #21 Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:57 PM
"Were it commercial software... people have been sued over statements like that.

People bad mouth Microsoft products all the time. How come I haven't heard of Microsoft taking people from Anti-Windows and Anti-Microsoft message boards to court?

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Jafo
Reply #22 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:00 AM
No-one held my hand as I journeyed down the alternate shell road....I hit the odd 'bump' on the way, but the trip was both rewarding [being my own, and solo], and enjoyable.

These days, people demand help on a silver platter and blame everyone and everything for whatever befalls them.

Shell alternatives are not for everyone, no matter what OS you are applying it/them to....
Tech Cat
Reply #23 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:00 AM
People who can't get Litestep to work (assuming it actually has use) don't have a low IQ, they just don't know how to use Litestep. This is reminding me of all the Linux Zealots that say if you can't get Linux to work then you are an idiot.

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bakerstreet
Reply #24 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:02 AM
"they just don't know how to use Litestep"

Who knows how to use anything the first time they use it? Well, of course, it is the people who RTFM.
Tech Cat
Reply #25 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:03 AM
At least on Linux, it is considered standard to use different desktop environments so software is designed to work with multiple desktop environments. In the Windows world, developers sometimes assume the user is not using an alternate shell.

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Tech Cat
Reply #26 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:04 AM
Men don't read manuals. Well actually I like to dive in and just try things. I'm a hands on learner. If I can't figure it out, then I refer to the manual and help sites. I usually just read enough from the manual to get me started before I dive in.

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bakerstreet
Reply #27 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:09 AM
You understand that you are doing your best to damage the reputation of software that you have no clue how to use and that people work very hard to create? How sad that you have so little respect for the developers of LS and the people you are misleading.

Someone who doesn't recognize that you have no idea what you are talking about might think that LS *IS* as dangerous as a virus, and opt not to use it.

Very, very sad.
Tech Cat
Reply #28 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:19 AM
Anybody who wants a more powerful OS should get Linux instead of trying to add onto Windows with products like Crashstep (Litestep). I have been down the road of wanting something more powerful than Windows so I try adding onto it. Now I am diving into Linux, and I have to say so far nothing for Windows can compare to it.

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bakerstreet
Reply #29 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:27 AM
I'm sorry, but at "Crashstep (Litestep)." I would have exiled him. Needless, ignorant, and damaging behavior. People shouldn't be allowed to use WCs servers to mislead people.
Tech Cat
Reply #30 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:30 AM
Mislead people? I am only expressing my opinions which I am entitled to hold and express. Why exile me when I don't post links to warez or ask for warez?

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Peff
Reply #31 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:52 AM
Because you make ignorant, misleading statements. This is primarily (not exclusively) a message board for skinning related questions and as such gets a lot of visits from inexperienced users that want to learn about skinning and the applications that make it possible. These users may not realize that you don't know what you're talking about (although bakerstreet has done a wonderful job of proving that) and assume that you do. The statements you make are sure to disuade these users from trying Litestep.

As for the opinion thing....

Opinions are like a**holes...everybody's got one....it is my opinion that yours stink!.


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Tech Cat
Reply #32 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:02 AM
To have your opinion respected here you can't say anything bad about Windows or any other Microsoft product, you can't hold any negative opinions towards any shell replacement or skinning programs for Windows unless it's StyleXP or whatever it is called, and never say that Microsoft is evil.

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bakerstreet
Reply #33 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:12 AM
No, you can say those things, but only orally. Anal babbling is better done in less public places.
Jafo
Reply #34 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:24 AM
Repeated mis-representation of LiteSTEP as 'Crashstep' is both childish and naive.

Learn about that which you speak and hold an opinion or go elsewhere to vent your spleen.

Litestep is one of the oldest and most used/respected alternative shells available, and, like Linux, is released under the GNU licence. The similarities don't stop there, but of course you know all that, as you are the expert.

I'm not quite vindictive enough to just kick you out, but I would rather you get an informed opinion rather than an emotive 'crashware' one.
Peff
Reply #35 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:27 AM
Not true jj. To have your opinion respected here you need to have an informed, researched opinion. Microsoft is a corporate entity...their sole purpose is to make money. I don't necessarily love them, but I do appreciate what they have done to further the computing industry.



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Tech Cat
Reply #36 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:30 AM
Further the industry? Microsoft makes crappy OSes with XP being both crap and spyware. Why use an alternate shell when an alternate OS (Linux) would work more nicely?

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Tech Cat
Reply #37 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:33 AM
Why won't Microsoft produce an OS based on Unix when all the other major OS makers are going Unix?

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Jafo
Reply #38 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:35 AM
Maybe the others are switching because theirs are inferior to Windows....just a thought...
Tech Cat
Reply #39 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:37 AM
Unix is a better built system that is more computer science oriented and has many years of development behind it that dates back before Winblows.

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Peff
Reply #40 Wednesday, April 23, 2003 1:57 AM
They've been developing linux since 1965 and have not been able to match the features or ease of use of windows which has been around since the mid 80's. MS's having a large majority of the OS market share should tell you that they're doing something right. I kind of doubt that linux would be as evoved as it is today without the presence of MS.

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