Iconpackager for Win 10

Everybody wants it !

Saturday, January 2, 2016 by neone6 | Discussion: Icons

Can we please get some valid information about Iconpackackager for Windows 10.

-Will there be an update ?


(If this has been answered somewhere else I haven't seen it)

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neone6
Reply #21 Sunday, January 3, 2016 6:53 AM

Hm, what don't you understand? (not directed to anyone in particular)

READ what The Doc said, and the rest of the post for that matter -It makes perfect sense, and Doc didn't say that it won't come.

starkers
Reply #22 Sunday, January 3, 2016 9:26 AM

neone6

Hm, what don't you understand?

Um, what I do understand is that the Win 10 UI and icons are too fugly for any desktop of mine, so in the event that Iconpackager is not released prior to the ' get Win 10 free' period, I won't be downgrading to it.  In other words, Win 10 has no allure for me as is, so Stardock needs to get IP out there for it in the next 7 and a bit months or I switch platforms to a Linux based OS and find ways to customise that instead.

neone6
Reply #23 Sunday, January 3, 2016 10:01 AM

starkers

Um, what I do understand is that the Win 10 UI and icons are too fugly for any desktop of mine, so in the event that Iconpackager is not released prior to the ' get Win 10 free' period, I won't be downgrading to it. In other words, Win 10 has no allure for me as is, so Stardock needs to get IP out there for it in the next 7 and a bit months or I switch platforms to a Linux based OS and find ways to customise that instead.
Did you read what Doc just explained ???

DrJBHL

Back to the real world: Stardock created many apps to address the demand for customization. That demand has fallen off, while paradoxically W10 is far uglier than the usual OS, and to make it more secure, more portions are "hard coded" and not 'accessible' to modification. To find 'work arounds' and 'fix' the software to work with the new OS and new chip architectures, takes time. Had IP been 'fixed' for W7, it wouldn't carry over to W10 (which will continue to be W10, but be periodically updated and 'evolve').
So, to 'fix everything' at this point would require man hours which have to be covered/paid somehow...the gaming side of SD...which also requires manpower/devs/artists/QA, and coordination of all this determines priorities...because customization is declining, the site and software priorities are coming secondary to the gaming side, which more and more supports us.
This is the reality. None of us loves this reality, but there it is. Forbearance and patience are a plus, because really, nothing else will help.

starkers
Reply #24 Sunday, January 3, 2016 3:49 PM

neone6

Did you read what Doc just explained ???

Yes, I read it.  However,  if Iconpackager isn't compatible by the time Win 10 is no longer 'free', then I shall not bother.  Simply put, there is no way I'd pay for Win 10, and given the lack of development/updates to IP over the last 3 - 4 years or more, I'm just not confident it'll be ready before MS' cut off date.

Apart from the fugly UI and icons, I also have privacy concerns.  Sure, some of the 'phone home' stuff can be turned off via 3rd party apps, but not all and I'd still not be sure Win 10 is safe to use. No, I'd want the modified version the Chinese are demanding and MS is bowing down to... a version that's stripped of all that spy crap but in English.

Hopefully this explains my POV.  Even IF Iconpackager is ready in time, I still have doubts regarding its installation and use.

Wizard1956
Reply #25 Sunday, January 3, 2016 7:20 PM

IP, while a good program and great eye candy back in the XP days, fell far short with the transition to 64 bit and live folders. Such a pity.

JuniorCrooks
Reply #26 Monday, January 4, 2016 1:35 AM

I would love to see IP for Windows 10 but to be honest you do not need it. There are other ways of making your Windows 10 default icons look appealing. Sorry but I do not understand  the reasoning behind the Stardock all or nothing approach. Tell me what is wrong with these icons besides the fact they may not be your taste. There are many others to choose from and yes I am using Windows 10

starkers
Reply #27 Monday, January 4, 2016 1:45 AM

Wizard1956

IP, while a good program and great eye candy back in the XP days, fell far short with the transition to 64 bit and live folders. Such a pity.

Yes, sadly, IP has pretty much fallen by the wayside since Vista/Win 7... almost as if it were put in the 'too hard basket' and forgotten about.  I use IP on Win 8.1, for the most part without issues, but it certainly could use some TLC to bring it up to date.

benmanns
Reply #28 Monday, January 4, 2016 5:23 AM

JuniorCrooks

I would love to see IP for Windows 10 but to be honest you do not need it. There are other ways of making your Windows 10 default icons look appealing. Sorry but I do not understand  the reasoning behind the Stardock all or nothing approach. Tell me what is wrong with these icons besides the fact they may not be your taste. There are many others to choose from and yes I am using Windows 10.


I think most people would like a one click solution, if you found something like that [PM PLEASE] 
 

JuniorCrooks
Reply #29 Monday, January 4, 2016 5:38 AM

benmanns


Quoting JuniorCrooks,

I would love to see IP for Windows 10 but to be honest you do not need it. There are other ways of making your Windows 10 default icons look appealing. Sorry but I do not understand  the reasoning behind the Stardock all or nothing approach. Tell me what is wrong with these icons besides the fact they may not be your taste. There are many others to choose from and yes I am using Windows 10.



I think most people would like a one click solution, if you found something like that [PM PLEASE] 
 

There is a one click solution but most people will not want it because it is an exe file. Check out the work this guy has done. He has several icon packs for 10 and no doubt will be making more. I have used his stuff and feel safe about it. http://alexgal23.deviantart.com/

moshi
Reply #30 Monday, January 4, 2016 6:28 AM

benmanns



Just remember those GUI Championship back then full of amazing sets- that was the time where skinning came together from all over the globe.

 

 

that happened because the prizes almost fifteen years ago (cash) were interesting enough for Chinese designers. Chinese economy made a lot of progress in the meantime, so for the same thing to happen again you'd have to consider significantly higher prizes (my guess would be at least tenfold the cash, an ObjectDesktop subsription wont do )

 

benmanns
Reply #31 Monday, January 4, 2016 7:21 AM

JuniorCrooks

There is a one click solution but most people will not want it because it is an exe file. Check out the work this guy has done. He has several icon packs for 10 and no doubt will be making more. I have used his stuff and feel safe about it. http://alexgal23.deviantart.com/



Thank you


that happened because the prizes almost fifteen years ago (cash) were interesting enough for Chinese designers. Chinese economy made a lot of progress in the meantime, so for the same thing to happen again you'd have to consider significantly higher prizes (my guess would be at least tenfold the cash, an ObjectDesktop subsription wont do

True, but hey, it is all about the variety 
and promotion in the end.
Multiple superb Iconpackager Packages that can change all of your icons on the fly for that price-money would probably be cheaper, than hiring the Iconfactory to design "A" neat package for you. 
The reason why people buy the app is because of the existing designs that are available for them to use.
At least that is  why i bought OD back in the day.

 

c242
Reply #32 Monday, January 4, 2016 1:51 PM

JuniorCrooks

 There is a one click solution but most people will not want it because it is an exe file. Check out the work this guy has done. He has several icon packs for 10 and no doubt will be making more. I have used his stuff and feel safe about it. http://alexgal23.deviantart.com/

 

Hm, does that support all languages ?

JuniorCrooks
Reply #33 Monday, January 4, 2016 5:32 PM



Quoting JuniorCrooks,



 There is a one click solution but most people will not want it because it is an exe file. Check out the work this guy has done. He has several icon packs for 10 and no doubt will be making more. I have used his stuff and feel safe about it. http://alexgal23.deviantart.com/




 

Hm, does that support all languages ?

He is from Russia but what you download is in English. There will be an iconpack.ex_ file that you need to change the extension to exe. He does that because of some antivirus software giving false positives. You will also be asked to disable your antivirus before you install which I know is going to scare some people but to be fair there are other legit software that also does this because of false positives. I install his icon packs without disabling my Panda antivirus or my Malwarebytes premium version and it installs just fine. I never had a need to disable anything before installing. No one has to do anything they are not safe with doing. I am usually quite cautious but this guy seems to be legit and no one has complained about his work yet. He does a lot more than just icons too.

Use at your own risk. It has been safe for me and the other people who have tried it but I make no claims of individual computer compatibility and will not be held responsible if something happens to your computer. I have seen plenty of cases even with Stardock software where most people will install something with no issues but there will be that one person who claims it messed up their computer.

TheDude23112
Reply #34 Monday, January 4, 2016 6:00 PM

But, alas Stardock resources are being used for Games.  This business model apparently works well for them.     It is what it is.

 

JuniorCrooks
Reply #35 Monday, January 4, 2016 6:31 PM

TheDude23112

But, alas Stardock resources are being used for Games.  This business model apparently works well for them.     It is what it is.

 

Yes true. I will go as far as saying that it is just not IP or one of the many other Stardock software that has gone the way of the dodo that members should be concerned about. I predict customization in the next 10 years or maybe even less will be a thing of the past and people will have to get use to function over form. If you don't like the way a UI looks and won't use an operating system because of that reason alone you are going to be lost in the sea of unadaptiveness. Here is something that you may not know. Do you know that The owner of the customize.org site has pretty much abandoned the site. There are no longer any mods there, the site does not even have any contact links that work and the personal contact email address I have is dead. The owners name is Mark Lampert from Toronto and guess what he is co-owner of? the answer is Uken Games. Now I know customize.org is a different kettle of fish but the point being there are many who have abandoned anything to do with computer customization and have focussed their attention on other products that have a larger demand. Hyperdesk from the Skins Factory is another example that has not updated the software and then there are countless of smaller players such as Nick Decker abandoning sysmetrix because in his own words feels "it is no longer needed do to dwindling users"  Those are just the facts folks so enjoy what you have now because unless something changes it is not going to last.

Jafo
Reply #36 Monday, January 4, 2016 7:03 PM

JuniorCrooks

Yes true. I will go as far as saying that it is just not IP or one of the many other Stardock software that has gone the way of the dodo that members should be concerned about. I predict customization in the next 10 years or maybe even less will be a thing of the past and people will have to get use to function over form. If you don't like the way a UI looks and won't use an operating system because of that reason alone you are going to be lost in the sea of unadaptiveness. Here is something that you may not know. Do you know that The owner of the customize.org site has pretty much abandoned the site. There are no longer any mods there, the site does not even have any contact links that work and the personal contact email address I have is dead. The owners name is Mark Lampert from Toronto and guess what he is co-owner of? the answer is Uken Games. Now I know customize.org is a different kettle of fish but the point being there are many who have abandoned anything to do with computer customization and have focussed their attention on other products that have a larger demand. Hyperdesk from the Skins Factory is another example that has not updated the software and then there are countless of smaller players such as Nick Decker abandoning sysmetrix because in his own words feels "it is no longer needed do to dwindling users" Those are just the facts folks so enjoy what you have now because unless something changes it is not going to last.

Customize.org was THE original and first 'skinning' site.  It 'died' a very long time ago due to what could be best described as 'immature Administrators' who succeeded in alienating [most of] the original masters of skinning.

As with all things...."shit happens".  What WAS the 'best skinning site" on the net was sold to eFront who managed to kill it within months.  [that was skinz.org].

Deskmod died due to one too many database losses/hacks with the rising cost of hosting.

Deviantart was THE skinning site for a short time [months] until its real goal was realized...to become a general ART site [where skinning was essentially forgotten/lost amongst the photos of Fido].

All the others were/are quite small...essentially one-man sites.

Hyperdesk was a failed attempt by one person with 'attitude' to rival Stardock's GUI skinning software.

Nick simply should have charged for Sysmetrix and thus have a commercial incentive to continue.  It's quite a competent proggy...

Skinning's origins in 95 and 98 [and quite a bit earlier too....I used to 'skin' the text cursor in Dos on a monochrome screen]  had evolved to its peak probably around the turn of the millennium when there were literally HUNDREDS of skinnables, but it is quite safe to say that since the advent of an actually 'attractive' OS from Microsoft [Win 7] there has been less NEED to customize.  Much of the older GUI software was essentially broken by 64 bit architecture as well as new explorer.exe functionality making updating them uneconomical/non-viable.

People who were around 15 plus years ago can [and do] lament the loss of the Golden Age of skinning, but as with all endeavours....there will be people still willing/wanting to improve/alter what is put before them as out-of-the-box-boring...

JuniorCrooks
Reply #37 Monday, January 4, 2016 7:28 PM

I don't doubt at all what you have said, especially customize.org but the fact is regardless of how Mark and the other admin who is Steve Revird treated  original members there are still enough skilled members on the site that contribute. They could have kept the site going if the will was there. Steve has not been active on the site for the last 6 years and Mark only logs onto the site about every 3 months. I believe it is because the site does not make him money but Uken Games does.

I also agree that there will always be some who will want to make their system pretty but I think they will eventually have to find a way to do that without the software we have now.

Jafo
Reply #38 Monday, January 4, 2016 8:05 PM

The 'problem' Admin at Custo was an idiot-child who was all attitude and no substance...sort of the resident troll, not one of the original/owners.

The software we have now is what we have.   I doubt there will ever be another Lonerunnr turn up out of the blue [or out of France] with a squeaky clean/new rendition of Litestep for Win10, or another Fli7e to reverse engineer Winamp and essentially start off the whole skinning industry in mainstream use.

Microsoft really doesn't care about GUI skinning.....it barely cares about appearance at all.  8, 8.1 and 10 are testament to that...

JuniorCrooks
Reply #39 Monday, January 4, 2016 8:22 PM


The 'problem' Admin at Custo was an idiot-child who was all attitude and no substance...sort of the resident troll, not one of the original/owners.

The software we have now is what we have.   I doubt there will ever be another Lonerunnr turn up out of the blue [or out of France] with a squeaky clean/new rendition of Litestep for Win10, or another Fli7e to reverse engineer Winamp and essentially start off the whole skinning industry in mainstream use.

Microsoft really doesn't care about GUI skinning.....it barely cares about appearance at all.  8, 8.1 and 10 are testament to that...

Well there may have been such an admin at one time but that person would have been long gone. The 2 owners that I told you about are the only remaining admins and one is not active at all. I know this because I was a mod there at one time and I asked Mark in a personal email and that is what he told me. Mark himself is very young so I would not be surprised if he made a lot of mistakes starting out. In my time of dealing with him he was always reasonable with me though.

Jafo
Reply #40 Monday, January 4, 2016 9:01 PM

I've been 'inactive' for a while...

2001 would have been the time Custo was 'relaunched' after its rebuild.  Prior to that the header, etc was entirely different...

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