XP
Monday, February 10, 2003 by WOM | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Would you buy XP inorder to use WindowBlinds? I have XP but still voted for #2 because a lot of people don't have a couple hundred to get XP.
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kthxbye
Reply #23 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 2:03 PM
Reply #23 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 2:03 PM
No kidding - I was hoping to be able to file them today. I could -really- use the money. *sighs*
Oh well. Back to reinstalling stuff!
Oh well. Back to reinstalling stuff!
Frogboy
Reply #24 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:27 PM
Reply #24 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:27 PM
So would people be willing to wait until next Fall for WindowBlinds 4 to be officially released in order to have Win9x/ME/2K support?
Or would they prefer a WB4 release for XP to be in say March and then Win9X show up in Fall of this year?
XP is already a theme aware OS. A lot of the improvements on XP in WB are things we can leverage from the OS itself. But on Win2K/Me/98 we have to build it from scratch.
Object Desktop users:
83% are using Windows XP
12% are using Windows 2000
5% are using Windows 95, Windows 98, ME, or NT.
Or would they prefer a WB4 release for XP to be in say March and then Win9X show up in Fall of this year?
XP is already a theme aware OS. A lot of the improvements on XP in WB are things we can leverage from the OS itself. But on Win2K/Me/98 we have to build it from scratch.
Object Desktop users:
83% are using Windows XP
12% are using Windows 2000
5% are using Windows 95, Windows 98, ME, or NT.
werewolf
Reply #25 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:32 PM
Reply #25 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:32 PM
well from a strictly selfish point of view, I'd like the March release.
Elfkura
Reply #26 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:36 PM
Reply #26 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:36 PM
why not surprise all of us at the same time? I vouch for later 
WOM
Reply #27 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:31 PM
Reply #27 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:31 PM
Frogboy, Thats from the few that answered the poll. Out of a 1/2 million people registered on this site that was a very small percentage. But to answer your question, sure bring out the XP version now and the rest later.
sig101
Reply #28 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:35 PM
Reply #28 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:35 PM
Frogboy: Where do those stats come from? How are OD users OS's ID'd?
I know about the user agent which websites can pick up via the browser. (And the user agent can be faked for those who like that sort of thing.) So I'm wondering what mechanism is used by SD to determine the OS of an OD user. Is it the user agent or am I missing something else?
WB4 I believe has already been announced to include support for W9x/2k. (Which surprised me given SD's previously expressed negativity regarding continued support of the previous OS's.) So if the plans are changing, why not just say so?
I know about the user agent which websites can pick up via the browser. (And the user agent can be faked for those who like that sort of thing.) So I'm wondering what mechanism is used by SD to determine the OS of an OD user. Is it the user agent or am I missing something else?
WB4 I believe has already been announced to include support for W9x/2k. (Which surprised me given SD's previously expressed negativity regarding continued support of the previous OS's.) So if the plans are changing, why not just say so?
sig101
Reply #29 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:49 PM
Reply #29 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:49 PM
Oh if the stats are based on the poll as WOM suggests, how is it determined that those answering the poll are actual OD users? WC users don't necessarily translate to OD users or even registered stardock app users.
So does this site track users and not only ID's who answered the poll (and what their vote was?) but also correlates that to an SD registration? WC users to SD users and thus individually keeping track of users' activities here and poll votes? Just wondering.
So does this site track users and not only ID's who answered the poll (and what their vote was?) but also correlates that to an SD registration? WC users to SD users and thus individually keeping track of users' activities here and poll votes? Just wondering.
WOM
Reply #31 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:54 PM
Reply #31 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:54 PM
sig: Don't know if the have something built in to detect what OS people are using. I know they can tell what WindowBlind is being used. Those stats were from the poll if I remember correctly.
sig101
Reply #32 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:20 PM
Reply #32 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:20 PM
ooooh, they can tell what windowblind I use? Next it'll be what I et for breakfast! Oh the humanity! 
WOM, I know for web based stuff, the browser gives up the user agent which provides the OS, browser used, and sometimes the ISP is coded there too. That can be changed by a minor registry hack for those who don't want to give out that info. But then some websites won't work with goofy user agents that some people come up with.
Anyway, I was just wondering where the stats came from and how they were gathered.
WOM, I know for web based stuff, the browser gives up the user agent which provides the OS, browser used, and sometimes the ISP is coded there too. That can be changed by a minor registry hack for those who don't want to give out that info. But then some websites won't work with goofy user agents that some people come up with.
Anyway, I was just wondering where the stats came from and how they were gathered.
Bender50
Reply #33 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:25 PM
Reply #33 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:25 PM
2000 is the best O/S going
Why should i be forced to go to XP?
Why should i be forced to go to XP?
UBoB
Reply #34 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:14 PM
Reply #34 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:14 PM
You say yes
I say no
You say stop
And I say go go go.
I say no
You say stop
And I say go go go.
UBoB
Reply #36 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:24 PM
It's the old "agree to disagree" scenario, WOM.
My best advice for Frogboy is to flip a coin.
Reply #36 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:24 PM
It's the old "agree to disagree" scenario, WOM.
My best advice for Frogboy is to flip a coin.
DPG
Reply #37 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:26 PM
Reply #37 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:26 PM
Flip a coin as long as both sides say
"Release ASAP".
"Release ASAP".
WOM
Reply #38 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:28 PM
Reply #38 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:28 PM
No I don't think he will flip a coin. He will look at the pro's and con's (money)and (people) and decide whats best for Stardock.
Iben
Reply #40 Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:18 AM
Reply #40 Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:18 AM
Admin Frogboy
Bring on WB4 for XP in march!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll wait for the other OS s.
Bring on WB4 for XP in march!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll wait for the other OS s.
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Reply #21 Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:35 PM
(Grrrr - W2's /finally/ got here - and wouldn't you know - one of them isn't even /partially/ correct. Wrong SSN, and my total witholdings for the -entire- time that I worked there are less than I got withheld from a /single/ cheque! *mutters*)