GUIOlympics Poll
Thursday, January 24, 2002 by T-Man | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Just curious how many of you out there are creating skins to submit to the GUIOlympics?
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treetog
Reply #23 Friday, January 25, 2002 11:09 AM
Reply #23 Friday, January 25, 2002 11:09 AM
I'm in representing 3 sites.
btw, hey Elfkura! nice to see you around
btw, hey Elfkura! nice to see you around
T-Man
Reply #24 Friday, January 25, 2002 12:11 PM
Reply #24 Friday, January 25, 2002 12:11 PM
Whew! There's quite a bit of talent up there. I can't wait!!!!
davad70
Reply #26 Friday, January 25, 2002 2:39 PM
Reply #26 Friday, January 25, 2002 2:39 PM
woo hoo! 3 new treetog skins! having this competition is worth it, if for nothing more than that to me.
shoggot
Reply #27 Friday, January 25, 2002 6:00 PM
Reply #27 Friday, January 25, 2002 6:00 PM
"I could see Greenreaper doing really well actually. You've got fastest skin, and then there's best use of plugins (or something like that) and best animated skin. I wonder who he's representing.
by Scribe Frogboy "
This is why I suggested entries be anonymous until after the judging.
by Scribe Frogboy "
This is why I suggested entries be anonymous until after the judging.
davad70
Reply #28 Friday, January 25, 2002 7:28 PM
Reply #28 Friday, January 25, 2002 7:28 PM
shoggot - I believe we were only referring to the fact that he's excelled in these areas with his previous skins. Nothing as sinister as you're thinking. But then it seems you have a knack for seeing the sinister side of most anything. Oops...guess i should watch what i say since you're a judge. Oh, what am i saying? I'm sure you'll be totally impartial, just as the other judges will be.
Hell Dragon
Reply #29 Friday, January 25, 2002 8:02 PM
Reply #29 Friday, January 25, 2002 8:02 PM
I certainly see where shoggot is coming from and do see his point.
But it would be a little annoying to see a whole bunch of skins on display and not know who made them until after the contest.
A bit like having an Olympics with everyone in masks I guess
But it would be a little annoying to see a whole bunch of skins on display and not know who made them until after the contest.
A bit like having an Olympics with everyone in masks I guess
Hell Dragon
Reply #30 Friday, January 25, 2002 8:04 PM
Reply #30 Friday, January 25, 2002 8:04 PM
Then again... the 'mask' you are wearing is also based on the website you have chosen to support. (e.g. DA, DM etc..)
So I guess there is some logic in there somewhere.
So I guess there is some logic in there somewhere.
davad70
Reply #31 Friday, January 25, 2002 8:26 PM
Reply #31 Friday, January 25, 2002 8:26 PM
I've yet to hear a valid argument supporting the theory that judges will be biased based on knowing who the author is. Anyways....it's irrelevant. it's Stardock's money to give away and their decision to make. Brad has clearly stated on the olympics board that this is not open to debate. Therefore, if you don't like the way the rules are set up, don't participate.
Frogboy
Reply #32 Friday, January 25, 2002 8:40 PM
Reply #32 Friday, January 25, 2002 8:40 PM
It's all just a little odd. Since we're providing 100% of the cash involved, why exactly would we try to rig it? What would be the motivation?
davad70
Reply #33 Friday, January 25, 2002 8:50 PM
Reply #33 Friday, January 25, 2002 8:50 PM
You and all your Stardock cronies will award me all the money, which i will then return to you frogboy, that's how. Stop playing naive. 
Frogboy
Reply #34 Friday, January 25, 2002 9:07 PM
Reply #34 Friday, January 25, 2002 9:07 PM
"These aren't the droids you're looking for." Obi-wan using the Jedi mind trick.
I have officially recused myself from judging so that I can take a more effective role of commenting and writing articles. It's not so much making comments on the obvious "Greenreaper maeks good skins!" (oh shock, scandal). It's the articles that are more problematic. Writing articles talking about skinning and such that show screenshots and such on skins while those skin authors may be competing is too much of a potential perceived conflit of interest issue.
I have officially recused myself from judging so that I can take a more effective role of commenting and writing articles. It's not so much making comments on the obvious "Greenreaper maeks good skins!" (oh shock, scandal). It's the articles that are more problematic. Writing articles talking about skinning and such that show screenshots and such on skins while those skin authors may be competing is too much of a potential perceived conflit of interest issue.
paxx
Reply #35 Friday, January 25, 2002 9:11 PM
Reply #35 Friday, January 25, 2002 9:11 PM
I can see Shoggot's point.
Of course nobody WANTS to rig the contest, but the subconscious is curious thing that one can't control because it's... well.. subconscious.
As a former teacher who put himself to the test, I can tell you that the grade can be somewhat different when the student writes his name at the end of a composition instead than at the end...
Of course, it's not voluntary, but it still happens.
Of course nobody WANTS to rig the contest, but the subconscious is curious thing that one can't control because it's... well.. subconscious.
As a former teacher who put himself to the test, I can tell you that the grade can be somewhat different when the student writes his name at the end of a composition instead than at the end...
Of course, it's not voluntary, but it still happens.
paxx
Reply #36 Friday, January 25, 2002 9:13 PM
Reply #36 Friday, January 25, 2002 9:13 PM
Hum... in the above post:
"the grade can be somewhat different when the student writes his name at the end of a composition instead than at the top of the page."
"the grade can be somewhat different when the student writes his name at the end of a composition instead than at the top of the page."
JayG
Reply #37 Friday, January 25, 2002 9:34 PM
Reply #37 Friday, January 25, 2002 9:34 PM
i see shoggot has showed his true colors in posts on other sites. people like him are the reason people in the real world don't volunteer to do things. it's always some loud mouth loser in the back row chewing out the people who try to do something nice.
GreenReaper
Reply #38 Friday, January 25, 2002 10:17 PM
Reply #38 Friday, January 25, 2002 10:17 PM
Actually, I *haven't* excelled in performance. I've done a lot to promote _awareness_ of performance issues, but "Docking Station" (really, my *only* published full skin - "Digital Age" was cool animation-wise, but not very usable) certainly isn't the fastest skin around. This is where you have a point in saying every skin must be judged on it's merits.
Of course, I *do* still intend to go for "Fastest skin" in the GUIOlympics (as well as a few others in another skin, if I can think of something that will fully utilise WB's animation features). We'll just have to see if I know as much about performance as Brad seems to think I do . . .
Of course, I *do* still intend to go for "Fastest skin" in the GUIOlympics (as well as a few others in another skin, if I can think of something that will fully utilise WB's animation features). We'll just have to see if I know as much about performance as Brad seems to think I do . . .
GreenReaper
Reply #39 Friday, January 25, 2002 10:20 PM
Reply #39 Friday, January 25, 2002 10:20 PM
Heh. I always write in dark green and have terrible handwriting. All my teachers know who's paper they're marking even if it doesn't have my name on the top. *g*
Jafo
Reply #40 Saturday, January 26, 2002 9:26 AM
Reply #40 Saturday, January 26, 2002 9:26 AM
I'm not entering the competition.
2 reasons...
1. My preferred site to represent/support is excluded [namely, here]
and
2. A snow-flakes chance in hell of succeeding springs to mind....
Perhaps if another judge is needed.....
2 reasons...
1. My preferred site to represent/support is excluded [namely, here]
and
2. A snow-flakes chance in hell of succeeding springs to mind....
Perhaps if another judge is needed.....
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Reply #21 Friday, January 25, 2002 8:46 AM