One Piece At A Time : Windowblind Tutorial Part I

Design : Start Menu and Taskbar

Monday, January 16, 2012 by PoSmedley | Discussion: WindowBlinds Tutorials

 

 

Okay. This is it. I've been sitting on it most of the day after bugging a few folks  for their opinions.

2of3 offered to help me with this. Vampothika & neone6 also offered help and support.

I decided to go with something new to get a fresh start and came up with this. Hopefully, it's simple enough so as not to be problematic along the way, but stylish enough that a lot of you will like it and it won't be too easy so I (and you) can learn from it as we go along.

2of3 was kind enough to send me some files to follow as sort of a workflow to keep organized. We're gonna go one piece at a time and won't be moving on to the next until the one we are on is good.

PLEASE :

  • I am open to suggestions but may not use any of them. Please, don't be offended if I don't use yours.
  • Keep the image posting to the skin(s)
  • If you want to make a skin to go with this, PM me for the files. My PSD's tend to be a mess, but I save everything and will be happy to     share.
  • We'll be skinning for Windows7, maybe Vista. If someone wants to do XP, PM me and I will get you what you need.
  • Any files you request will come as I complete them. I won't be jumping ahead. Please be patient.

So...this is pretty much it. How the rest of this thread progresses and shapes up will depend on how the back and forth transpires. If I leave something out as we go along and you want me to back up, give a yell. I'll be happy to.

If this is the only skin I ever do, we're gonna go through it from start to finish so enjoy.

What you see above is the Start window (I'll probably be going with the darker of the two). (401 px x 500 px)

These were the drafts.

 

UPDATE 1/17/2012 : gmc2 is going to attempt to do the Wiki for this. Woot! Based on that, I think we'll be doing more than one thread as we progress. THIS particular thread will be the basic design/draft of all the parts. Hopefully, this will make it easier for gmc2 to do his thing and make it easier for anyone to follow the progress.

I'll be asking for suggestions from time to time. Feel free to PM me anything.

Also - If you want to make anything to go with, this here is a color chart if it helps. I'll be sticking to these colors. Any variations will be due to shading/effects or 'overlay' layers.

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NOTES: Start Menu and Taskbar -

  • Leather Effect - There are a lot of good tutorials for leather effects around. For Windowblinds there is the issue of tiling and stretching and the details of the effects can make or break the skin. I had to come up with my own to try to keep it simple. In PHOTOSHOP, make your object and go to Filters>Textures>Texturizer - Select Sandstone - Scaling 60 - Relief 2 - Lighting Top (IF you have a copy of Rust Flakes in your Texturizing filter, you can make a much more textured leather)
  • Thread/Stitch Effect : There are a lot of tutorials for this but most involve Adobe Illustrator at one point or another. My issue was keeping the stitching straight and uniform. (The draft on the far right of the second image above shows how it looks 'freehand' .) I did find one for Photoshop that was great (It was the only one I found that relied entirely on Photoshop). Besides helping me with this, it also shows what you can do with your brushes to get some different results and can be fun to play with if you're unfamiliar with this technique. Here is the link for the Photoshop Tutorial.
  • Start Menu - 401 px x 500 px (This was my choice after talking to Tim. I will get back here as to recommended size and why)
  • Taskbar  - 400 px x 50 px - If you have looked at a lot of skins like I have, you may notice that 35 to 38 px is pretty common. Some mentions have been made in this thread as to what specifically can alter/control your taskbar size. For this particular skin, I am going with a 50 px taskbar to accommodate the stitching. It is a 'rounded corner' taskbar' and the png is different than one you might use for a taskbar that spans the width of the screen. (I will post the png when it is ready) I will, for sake of this tutorial, skin all of the buttons for the taskbar so we can give an example of what the finished png might look like. (Again, I will post when I have it done.)
  • Taskbar Buttons - For this skin, mine will be 50px x 50 px - They will be in the following order normal ,pressed, disabled, highlighted, activated, activated & highlighted. (Picture to be posted when complete)

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If you're looking for Part I, II, III you can find them here:

One Piece At A Time : Windowblind Tutorial Part I

Design : Start Menu and Taskbar

 

One Piece At A Time : Windowblind Tutorial Part II

Design: Title Bars & Window Frames


One Piece At A Time : Windowblind Tutorial Part II

Design: Edit Controls


PLEASE :

  • I am open to suggestions but may not use any of them. Please, don't be offended if I don't use yours.
  • Keep the image posting to the skin(s)
  • If you want to make a skin to go with this, PM me for the files. My PSD's tend to be a mess, but I save everything and will be happy to     share. I am uploading the actual files to the Graphics Gallery here on Wincustomize.
  • We'll be skinning for Windows7, maybe Vista. If someone wants to do XP, PM me and I will get you what you need.
  • Any files you request will come as I complete them. I won't be jumping ahead. Please be patient.

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The PSD files for the  previous threads are in the Graphics Gallery.

Roan WB Title Bars and Window Frames  

  Roan WB Taskbar Buttons

Roan WB Title Bars and Window Frames  

  Roan WB Taskbar Buttons

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PoSmedley
Reply #61 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:10 PM

Xiandi
He may have been referring to the mask for the taskbar buttons.

He mentioned it when I first sent the drafts of the start panels. I have a lot of light effects on them from PSP and I think he was saying to leave them out and we could play with the lights and shadows in Skinstudio. I'm guessing with Skinstudio you could do it with the taskbar as well? I'm trying not to get ahead of myself. Everything I am doing can fly as is or I can remove the lighting and shadows.

*reaches for more Advil

So..if I get this..if I leave my buttons transparent EXCEPT for the side stitches...Skinstudio is gonna apply a color...that I don't WANT..to my buttons? Cause that would like, blow chunks and I didn't want to use the taskbar graphics to skin the buttons. I want to have them transparent and use the subtle highlights that neone6 suggested with just a hint of the side edges. I don't want no colors added.

No colors.

I don't want no colors, dammit.

PoSmedley
Reply #62 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:12 PM

neone6
My order IS CORRECT

Yeah, I know. Kitty said you had burgers and fries and they were all 'nummy'. What about the order of the buttons?

IROKONESS
Reply #63 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:19 PM

Remember to breath.   And sounds like your rushing.    No Rush.   Just one step at a time.    And a Wow.

neone6
Reply #64 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:34 PM

PoSmedley



So..if I get this..if I leave my buttons transparent EXCEPT for the side stitches...Skinstudio is gonna apply a color...that I don't WANT..to my buttons? Cause that would like, blow chunks and I didn't want to use the taskbar graphics to skin the buttons. I want to have them transparent and use the subtle highlights that neone6 suggested with just a hint of the side edges. I don't want no colors added.

No colors.

I don't want no colors, dammit.
Yes doing it with the masks will give you blue, orange, red n shit, moving as you move the cursor over them....

Po...We´ll go in a steady pace getting it where YOU want in ways YOU (and hopefully others) understand it -ok  ? 

gmc2
Reply #65 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:38 PM

PoSmedley
PSP

paint shop pro? that's what I use, version 7

neone6
Reply #66 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:41 PM

PoSmedley



Quoting neone6,
reply 59
My order IS CORRECT


 What about the order of the buttons?
My order IS CORRECT - top to bottom in sks

neone6
Reply #67 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:44 PM

If you wanna know/get somethin more to work on til 2morrow tell me now as I´m going to bed soon (up 06.00 -w o r k)

PoSmedley
Reply #68 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:58 PM

PSP

My bad. Meant PHOTOSHOP.

neone6
If you wanna know/get somethin more to work on til 2morrow tell me now as I´m going to bed soon (up 06.00 -w o r k)

Go to bed. I'll be working on the taskbar and start panel. Nothing that can't wait. Oh wait.....ha...states for the Start Button? Same as the TB Buttons? Then ya can go to bed.

Image above should have shown transparent background for the png state. Sorry bout that.

*Have tweak the differences in states..looked different in photoshop.

neone6
Reply #69 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:08 PM

PoSmedley



Quoting gmc2,
reply 65
PSP


My bad. Meant PHOTOSHOP.




Quoting neone6,
reply 67
If you wanna know/get somethin more to work on til 2morrow tell me now as I´m going to bed soon (up 06.00 -w o r k)
 Oh wait.....ha...states for the Start Button? Same as the TB Buttons? Then ya can go to bed.


Startbutton states: normal, pressed, disabled, mouseover, focus&default (5)

Your Image looks great ! But remember that there will be quite hard to identify what state is showing.

G´nite Poster lol [e digicons]'[/e]

2of3
Reply #70 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:36 PM

neone6
Gray´s for disabled... some make it transparant but In this case it wouldn´t werk (color-placing Not correct on my example)

Win 7 doesn`t use the disabled or pressed states of the taskbar buttons, so you can do them the same as the normal state. I essence, you need a normal state, highlighted (aka mouseover), activated (the button that shows an open/active window) and active and highlighted (an active button mouseover) Like I said you`ll never see the pressed and disabled states, so there you can put anything (I just copy the normal state as a "filler")

 

What I said about the lighting on the startpanel was: when we assemble the startpanel in sks, I can see us using up to 3 layers to acheive the look.

base layer would be the brown with the texture on it (tiled)

second, the stitching (tiled)

third, any lighting/gradient effects (stretched)

 

The reason I would do the stitching as a seperate layer is because it will give you more freedom in where you set your tiling margins.....you won`t have to worry about it effecting the tiling on the textured layer.

2of3
Reply #71 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:46 PM

Don`t rush. Get your design drafted and we`ll worry about making it actually work later. A lot of things are possible just hard to make work....but I`m very creative at finding solutions to these things.

All sections will be gone through in detail as we start putting the skin together in sks.

PoSmedley
Reply #72 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:46 PM

Win 7 doesn`t use the disabled or pressed states of the taskbar buttons, so you can do them the same as the normal state. I essence, you need a normal state, highlighted (aka mouseover), activated (the button that shows an open/active window) and active and highlighted (an active button mouseover) Like I said you`ll never see the pressed and disabled states, so there you can put anything (I just copy the normal state as a "filler")

Well, I already did them so na-na-na-na-boo-boo. They can be used in the Vista version, right?

What I said about the lighting on the startpanel was etc., etc....

Right. That's exactly what I said...while I was dreaming during my nap.

I get the lighting and shadows. How you're gonna do that with the stitches boggles my mind and has me nervous but I'll blow that bridge all to hell when we get to it.

Meanwhile...

2of3
Reply #73 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:48 PM

I agree with the others about the taskbar.......no stitching on the bottom. This image in reply #68 looks great and very doable.

2of3
Reply #74 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:52 PM

Yes....it`s important to note that using overlay or screen blending may not work if your image is semi trans. The layers in sks do have blend modes similiar to that though so it is possible to tweak the image there.

2of3
Reply #75 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:56 PM

Never seen a disabled taskbar button in Veesta (nor XP for that matter) 

 

 

 

Pressed state is used in Vista, though.

PoSmedley
Reply #76 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:04 PM

Never seen a disabled taskbar button in Veesta (nor XP for that matter)

Well, I refer you to back to post #57 with the SS of SKS that actually lists it. Are you implying Stardock has listed a button state that is never used or doesn't exist, sir?

And who did you chase down and beat up to get that halo, anyway?

Xiandi
Reply #77 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:11 PM

PoSmedley
So..if I get this..if I leave my buttons transparent EXCEPT for the side stitches...Skinstudio is gonna apply a color...that I don't WANT..to my buttons? Cause that would like, blow chunks and I didn't want to use the taskbar graphics to skin the buttons. I want to have them transparent and use the subtle highlights that neone6 suggested with just a hint of the side edges. I don't want no colors added.

No colors.

I don't want no colors, dammit.
You can do that too. Just don't skin the mouseover mask.

PoSmedley
Reply #78 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:34 PM

Xiandi
You can do that too. Just don't skin the mouseover mask.

Okay.

*Note to self - Keep track of 'who to blame' when something doesn't work

RedneckDude
Reply #79 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:30 PM

LOL @ Po.

 

Hey, yall need a Johnny Cash soundtrack running in the background on this thread....

PoSmedley
Reply #80 Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:37 PM

RedneckDude
Hey, yall need a Johnny Cash soundtrack running in the background on this thread....

I was actually thinking of this.

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