Invalid zip code when running weather widgets
Tuesday, July 7, 2009 by jag4710 | Discussion: DesktopX
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Reply #242 Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:36 PM
Vad_M--have you updated the SD Desktop weather widget, and if you have, are you going to upload it?
Reply #243 Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:58 PM
Certainly http://xml.weather.com/weather/local/ from neophil78. This way is much friendly than registration on TWC and entering ID and Key.
What did you mean? If SD Desktop - this project is dead together with Windows XP on my computer... I even can't open it on Vista. Sorry...
The other weather widgets/gadgets was already updated and reuploaded. 
Reply #244 Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:01 PM
I do not know the law . . but I would not do such a thing becuae *I* believe it violate the spirit of teh license. weather.com is providing a service and deserves what they are asking for. It's theirs.
Thank you. I understood. This project is already stopped and even has been removed from my PC. I agree. We must respect TWC.
Vad_M My SleekSilva weather widget that you fixed works fine now. My question is: can I copy the code into all my other widgets that already posted and re-upload them to wincustomize?
What can I say? Only that I'm totally agree with this:
The short answer is no. You would have to redesign your widget to The Weather Channel standards (logos, adverts, etc.) Also, if you have hard coded your personal ID and license key into the widget, you can not redistribute it as that would be in violation of the license agreement.
If you use the solution that doesn't call for an ID or key, you MIGHT be able to reupload. I'm not entirely sure. Just bear in mind that it is not the official TWC method and will likely be prohibited in future, then you'd have to re-do your widgets all over again.
I just found in the informations flux url and the search flux url
Seems it was much greater than when America was discovered by Columb! Now I already finished the update of my widgets/gadgets. No any ID and KEYS! No any problems with license!
Reply #245 Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:04 PM
Certainly http://xml.weather.com/weather/local/ from neophil78. This way is much friendly than registration on TWC and entering ID and Key.
The other weather widgets/gadgets was already updated and reuploaded.
ok thanks
I will use this method too
Reply #246 Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:11 PM
We don't know. Since that fix technically uses a different feed than the one licensed (I think) it may or may not fall under the license agreements.
Err on the side of caution. If that method is in violation of TWC's license, and you re-upload using it, TWC will have a right to hold you liable.
My honest advice is to just post a notice on your skins informing users that it doesn't work at the present time, until a more long-term solution presents itself. Or you could just take down your skins. It sucks, but those are our options.
As I said before, these fixes are primarily for end-users who have already downloaded the widgets. We authors have a much more difficult time on our hands in terms of how best to proceed.
Reply #247 Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:14 PM
Vad_M what do I do with the code you wrote in reply #243, sorry I don't quite understand what is going on
Reply #248 Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:26 PM
the only major cahnge was to replace xoap with xml in any addresses that refence the TWC site. I found 2 references in my implemntation of Vienna. One was in the script for weather_image and one was under the script for weather_location.
Depending on how your widget is setup, you may have more or less references and in differnt places. just open the object list and sort by name and look at the scripts for all of the weather objects. most of them won't have scripts, but for the ones that do just look for xoap and replace it with xml.
I am not sure WHY this works, or if it will continue to work. As others have said, chances are TWC will identify this leak and patch it up shortly.
Reply #249 Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:29 PM
Please look here: https://forums.wincustomize.com/358595/page/9/#replies reply#223. You'll find the detailed istrucions.
Reply #251 Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:46 PM
Reply #252 Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:54 PM
Hmmm... This more and more reminds me the similar discussions between a few hackers on the some dark places in the internet! We don't hack the TWC site or feeds. We just try to find the easy way to "reanimate" our lovely widgets. No more.
If you want to protect any data you may not publish it on the opened sources because all information that published in the internet becomes available to the public and free for reading or even using. So I don't see any obstacles to use this url.
Reply #253 Thursday, July 9, 2009 2:02 PM
This is very grim prognosis... 
So what we must do? Remove all weather widgets from the gallery? Or begin to use the first "fix" which uses ID and KEY?
Reply #254 Thursday, July 9, 2009 2:20 PM
http://xml.weather.com/weather/local/I would expect this link to fail in the near future as weather.com sees teh activity. Just sayin'
No ..
Zu, you need some some optimism..
Xml WILL WORK alltime 
Reply #256 Thursday, July 9, 2009 3:12 PM
Everyone have to say a prayer ...
... and send me 50 cents 
Reply #257 Thursday, July 9, 2009 3:22 PM
This will require all end users to have their own ID and Key. Which will be more trouble than the end user will want to do.
Reply #258 Thursday, July 9, 2009 3:24 PM
What did you mean? If SD Desktop - this project is dead together with Windows XP on my computer... I even can't open it on Vista. Sorry...
The other weather widgets/gadgets was already updated and reuploaded.
That's great. Thanks a lot
Reply #259 Thursday, July 9, 2009 3:33 PM
I would expect this link to fail in the near future as weather.com sees teh activity. Just sayin'
That's what I'm afraid of.
This will require all end users to have their own ID and Key. Which will be more trouble than the end user will want to do.
Looks like those are our only options. Even if they don't remove the xml feed in the near future, we do have to anticipate that there will be changes down the road for whatever reason (maybe they'll change the layout of the feed, what stuff is included, or even the entire url string.)
People get signed up for all kinds of things these days. Getting subscribing to the feed is a relatively painless process and it's a one-time deal. Heck, we all did it when the widgets stopped working.
I don't want to have a repeat of this fiasco in future; that's why, barring a reasonable long-term alternative, I'm trying to work on a widget that complies with the TWC rules to date, and which uses an external script that can be replaced easily by the user.
So far, it's not so bad:
From now on, if my stuff is hooking out to the internet for anything, I am using an external script. 
Reply #260 Thursday, July 9, 2009 3:36 PM
Not to mention the fact that they will have to edit scripts. I have tested over a hundred themes,and still won't go there,lol. 
I think the more casual user will just avoid all DX Themes and widgets. Even after repairs are made,the damage will already be done.
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Reply #241 Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:23 PM
Since we don't know how long this will take, if ever, I am currently working on a windowblind for which I will post a WIP soon. It is my first one, so I dunno when. I will most likely keep making DX themes, just sans weather widgets. I use DX themes for all my shortcuts. All I actually use daily is Windowblinds and a DX theme turned into a widget so I can get it to load at startup, since DX won't. I don't need Object Dock, the start menu, or any other launcher. One of my DX themes, setup correctly, is all that is needed to run windows. Weather is nice, but life goes on without a weather widget.....at least for me.
I wondered if you might do WindowBlinds someday. Good luck with it, and I hope you keep making DX themes.