I don't want WB moving my skins!!!
Thursday, September 20, 2007 by RGadelha | Discussion:
After updating WB yesterday (9/20) it started moving my skins to a folder all users could find them. I don't want this for sure! It means it is moving almost 2GB to my C: and I don't have much space in there. I want my skins in D:, like it was before, where I have a lot of space. My C: is just for Windows files and that's all. I don't even use Program Files to install programs unless I don't have the option to change that. But for my skins, YES, I want to have the option to put them where I want them.
So I uninstalled WB and am waiting for a fix for this, please?
Thank you for your attention - Roberto Gadelha
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Reply #22 Friday, September 21, 2007 5:29 AM
WindowBlinds has a requirement that all skins are stored in a location that can at least be read by every user on the machine.
Microsoft believe than an app consists of executable files and data files and that user data files should not be stored off \program files.
These two requirements mean there are only 2 suitable locations for the WB skins. Common documents (which is where they are now) and common application data. App data is hidden away and is very difficult for a user to get to so common documents (also known as shared documents or public documents - Microsoft keeps on changing the name) was considered to be the most suitable location.
Old Crab: Even with WB 5 your skins could be edited or deleted by any other user on the system (or applied as all they need to do is run wbconfig)
Reply #23 Friday, September 21, 2007 7:04 AM
While I understand the crap you guys have to go through with Microsoft...I don't think XP users should have to be subjected to the problems Vista users have to go through now. Just my 2 cents.
Reply #24 Friday, September 21, 2007 7:19 AM
It would be nice to have a little consistency ... having one program put its files here and another putting its files there helter skelter makes it a bit of a pain to keep track of for backups, etc.
No. Please no.
I really do not like it when programs puts its files in My Documents. They way I see it it's meant to be, for just that; documents. I don't want a bunch of application settings and other stuff there.
Unfortunately many applications do this, so I'm forced to use a completely separate folder to store my documents so I can organize the folder to my liking.
Reply #25 Friday, September 21, 2007 7:29 AM
I can see the point. But then you got people like me that doesn't install apps to Program Files, except for those that doesn't even ask you where to install itself.
I create my own hierarchy of folder structure to where I install my programs and keep my data files.
Would it be possible to have an advanced button, on the message box which informs you about the move, which will allow you to choose where to install it?
It's good that there is the registry setting to manually set where to store it. So power users can edit it them self. But it's not something people would simply know about without some digging.
Like RGadelha I don't have much space on the OS partition of some of my computers. This is because I dualboot and keep most things on a shared partition leaving the OS partition rather small.
Reply #26 Friday, September 21, 2007 9:49 AM
My Office/work/doc files have always been located OFF the 'C' drive...away from a 'wobbly' OS....so what goes into 'my documents' matters diddly.
As for protecting 'keepables' such as WB skins, WA skins, Docs, etc....all are separately backed by schedule to a third drive.
Nothing is left to chance.
And Keepsafe handles the Doc's as they alter when open.
Putting skins into 'my docs'....if it's the place MS 'wants' such to go...then that's that. I'll simply work around/along with it....backing them from potential dramas as always...
Reply #27 Saturday, September 22, 2007 5:09 PM
These two requirements mean there are only 2 suitable locations for the WB skins...
Well, again, what about an option for us XP users to choose the place of our skins? Won't you please? Is there a risk of The Big Brother (MS) not giving the "Windows Vista Ready Seal" to Stardock?
Reply #28 Saturday, September 22, 2007 5:45 PM
Reply #29 Monday, September 24, 2007 2:04 AM
Reply #30 Monday, September 24, 2007 2:40 AM
Unfortunately many applications do this, so I'm forced to use a completely separate folder to store my documents so I can organize the folder to my liking.
I wholeheartedly (is that even a word?) agree with that.
I can't find my documents anymore in the "My Documents"-folder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I soooooo hate/loathe/detest it when programs put their backload in there.
Especially if their uninstaller "forgets" to remove those folders, either by design or by error. This means we now have at least three places which we have to clean out manually if we want to uninstall a program for good.
Reply #31 Monday, September 24, 2007 7:07 PM
Reply #32 Monday, September 24, 2007 8:02 PM
It's My Secret
Reply #33 Monday, September 24, 2007 11:12 PM
Well, we are just the patron here, doesn't we?
Reply #34 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:49 AM
Asking the user would require a change to how SDC works.
Once your skins have been migrated you are free to change those registy keys to point to any folder. Though it is very important that all users have read & write permissions on that folder.
Reply #35 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:25 PM
Yeah but what about people who are wary (and rightfully so) about messing with the registry? I know I'm not comfortable with it.
Reply #36 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:06 PM
Reply #37 Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:21 PM
Once your skins have been migrated you are free to change those registy keys to point to any folder. Though it is very important that all users have read write permissions on that folder.
Dear Mr. Banfield,
And it's a pleasure I'm quoting you, because I know who you are, but that's my point:
I'm all sat here. I've done all the registry changes and it's working pretty good for me right now. I could give up here but the problem is I'm an old programmer, since 1977 I'm dealing with comps, I've got my first PC (it wasn't called a PC yet) in 1979. In 1982... well, I've could told you a longer and boring history, but not!
I'm gonna repeat myself: please, just create an option, for us XP users, to choose where our skins will be, or to let us not to move them. Whatever, it was a great pleasure to talk to you, or to quote you anyway...
Reply #38 Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:29 AM
My main gripe is that I've now got Stardock stuff spread all over my pc. WB skins are in one place, dreams in another, and OD icons, I've at least three different locations for those.
Some consistency throughout all these programs would be welcome. One single location for all skins etc.
Reply #39 Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:48 AM
My thoughts exactly.
Since it looks like WB skins are in their present location to stay, we just need to get the developers of Objectdock, Soundpackager, and apparently Dreams (still on XP here, so I'll defer to Fuzzy on this one) to move their stuff to the same place as WB skins.
Reply #40 Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:52 AM
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Reply #21 Friday, September 21, 2007 4:17 AM