this is gone because of closed mindedness
Tuesday, August 21, 2007 by pferpaddy | Discussion: OS Customization
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Hawkeye666
Reply #22 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:49 AM
Reply #22 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:49 AM
I'm embarassed to admit I clicked on the link...
and now I just feel, well. . . somehow
SOILED
and now I just feel, well. . . somehow
SOILED
Lantec
Reply #23 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:52 AM
Reply #23 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:52 AM
Interesting post title........
Sorry to hear you're closed minded.
Sorry to hear you're closed minded.
Alternate Setting
Reply #24 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:33 PM
Reply #24 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:33 PM
I'd still have liked the OP to have had a chance to draw out a bit more - the Toy,D project seems to have stalled in March at what they're describing at the pre-alpha stage - unless some thing is happening in the background.
It seems almost like taking a liveCD with a Windows finish; like Linspire, but instead of it being on an abstract layer, they seem to be trying to enable a portable graft that can be placed onto the OS of choice.
If it could be made to work in a stable fashion, it's difficult to see how at the end of the day you'd get pass the fact that Linux isn't Windows - which strangely seems to be the thing that surprises new adopters the most and results in a return to what's familiar. That said, I always enjoy seeing people try to make ideas work and would for the most part, rather see them succeed than fail.
I'd also have been interested to read what he/she was building on. Thinking at this point of introducing a 3D desktop manager seems a bit previous, so I'd have liked to have had a chance to hear why the OP was thinking at this level.
It seems almost like taking a liveCD with a Windows finish; like Linspire, but instead of it being on an abstract layer, they seem to be trying to enable a portable graft that can be placed onto the OS of choice.
If it could be made to work in a stable fashion, it's difficult to see how at the end of the day you'd get pass the fact that Linux isn't Windows - which strangely seems to be the thing that surprises new adopters the most and results in a return to what's familiar. That said, I always enjoy seeing people try to make ideas work and would for the most part, rather see them succeed than fail.
I'd also have been interested to read what he/she was building on. Thinking at this point of introducing a 3D desktop manager seems a bit previous, so I'd have liked to have had a chance to hear why the OP was thinking at this level.
NightTrainthedark
Reply #26 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:29 PM
Reply #26 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:29 PM
The project the subby was pushing was codenamed blackhat.
Will the final version be called Doors? bada bump Buuuuuuuuuu
Will the final version be called Doors? bada bump Buuuuuuuuuu
Jafo
Reply #27 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:45 PM
Reply #27 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:45 PM
I always thought Qnx looked like a fun OS ....particularly the demo way back when that ran from a floppy....
BigDogBigFeet
Reply #28 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:05 PM
So is that like pferpaddy wagon, pferpaddy cell or it's a knick-knack paddywack looks like your gonna have to cough up a bigger bone?
Reply #28 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:05 PM
that basically cause your all idiots
Ya right. We're the problem you don't know how to communicate your ideas and can't realize good critique is your best friend.So is that like pferpaddy wagon, pferpaddy cell or it's a knick-knack paddywack looks like your gonna have to cough up a bigger bone?
seldomseen
Reply #29 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:34 PM 
Guy throws a little chum in the water and the sharks run all over him. LOL.
"Sic 'em!!"
Reply #29 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:34 PM
Guy throws a little chum in the water and the sharks run all over him. LOL.
"Sic 'em!!"
BigDogBigFeet
Reply #30 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:55 PM
You got that right, but his supply of
Reply #30 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:55 PM
Somehow I'm betting Bill has more money for lawyers than you do.
You got that right, but his supply of
forst stable beta
will be huge if it ever sees the light of day. Vaporware is always a safe bet --- if I could only get my bank to accept it and pay my bills with it.
BigDogBigFeet
Reply #31 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:21 PM
Reply #31 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:21 PM
And I really must add, although I didn't quote anything from little-whip, her tongue lashings and floggings were superp as always. Go whip!
seldomseen
Reply #32 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:25 PM
Aye! Whip tells it like it is. (Hey! Don't point that thing at me!)
Reply #32 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:25 PM
Go whip!
Aye! Whip tells it like it is. (Hey! Don't point that thing at me!)
ericaa
Reply #33 Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:02 AM
Laughing!!! Unfortunately though, I now have iced tea all over my desk...
Reply #33 Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:02 AM
So is that like pferpaddy wagon, pferpaddy cell or it's a knick-knack paddywack looks like your gonna have to cough up a bigger bone?
Laughing!!! Unfortunately though, I now have iced tea all over my desk...
Alternate Setting
Reply #34 Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:05 AM
It does kinda make 'Damn Small Linux' seem bloated.......
Reply #34 Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:05 AM
I always thought Qnx looked like a fun OS ....particularly the demo way back when that ran from a floppy....
It does kinda make 'Damn Small Linux' seem bloated.......
XX
Reply #35 Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:45 AM
Reply #35 Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:45 AM
I miss that floppy. 
It saved me once when I had no way to get drivers WAYY back, but I don't have floppy anymore. I don't even have a 3 1/4 drive on computer anymore.
It saved me once when I had no way to get drivers WAYY back, but I don't have floppy anymore. I don't even have a 3 1/4 drive on computer anymore.
Alternate Setting
Reply #36 Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:46 AM
Judging by his verbal skills, I would say he wasn't thinking much at all. At any level. Beyond that of a 12 year old, that is.
That makes it seem all the more strange to me. I mean, if you think the OP is unarmed when it comes to wits and/or maturity - don't you think it's odd that anybody would want to line up and take a shot ? Let alone join a posse of people doing it.
Reply #36 Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:46 AM
Judging by his verbal skills, I would say he wasn't thinking much at all. At any level. Beyond that of a 12 year old, that is.
That makes it seem all the more strange to me. I mean, if you think the OP is unarmed when it comes to wits and/or maturity - don't you think it's odd that anybody would want to line up and take a shot ? Let alone join a posse of people doing it.
ZubaZ
Reply #37 Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:48 AM
Of the first 10 replies:
Move along . . there's nothing to see here.
Reply #37 Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:48 AM
I mean, if you think the OP is unarmed when it comes to wits and/or maturity - don't you think it's odd that anybody would want to line up and take a shot ? Let alone join a posse of people doing it.
Of the first 10 replies:
- One addendum from the OP
- Four lawyer comments (with humor but not inaccurate)
- Three posts about the project itself (albeit with humor)
- One claim that we are idiots and pulling the original post
Move along . . there's nothing to see here.
Alternate Setting
Reply #38 Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:56 AM
Reply #38 Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:56 AM
I don't have any axe to grind with any individual - but which out of those initial posts apart from #5 where I.R.Brainiac tries to bring the thread back to something that's workable and then #9 where Boxxi invites the OP to explain are actually posts that you could fairly describe as being supportive or useful to the OP.
Supportive meaning asking for clarification, explaining why ya think something won't fly - maybe offering some lateral options like Gideon does in #13
Sure the OP went way OTT and didn't seem able to make use of those couple of posts. Still, it doesn't take a genius to see why the OP might feel like sh*t. It's not as if he/she didn't put any effort into the initial posts. He/she was probably a little carried away and thought the piece was the entire puzzle, but it's not really a crime in this context.
I just think we could have been a little kinder and a little more helpful. Anyway, not to obsess, so I'm gonna abandon thread and try to follow my own advice.
Supportive meaning asking for clarification, explaining why ya think something won't fly - maybe offering some lateral options like Gideon does in #13
Sure the OP went way OTT and didn't seem able to make use of those couple of posts. Still, it doesn't take a genius to see why the OP might feel like sh*t. It's not as if he/she didn't put any effort into the initial posts. He/she was probably a little carried away and thought the piece was the entire puzzle, but it's not really a crime in this context.
I just think we could have been a little kinder and a little more helpful. Anyway, not to obsess, so I'm gonna abandon thread and try to follow my own advice.
Gideon MacLeish
Reply #39 Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:11 AM
See that's the way I see it. When someone posts these things, they aren't thinking copyright issues, etc. They're thinking "that's really cool, how can I DO that?"
I think it's in our best efforts to encourage potential young developers to steer them to places where they might be able to implement their ideas.
To the original poster: You had a legitimate question. But you're not going to be take seriously if you delete everything as soon as you get a couple of flames.
Reply #39 Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:11 AM
Supportive meaning asking for clarification, explaining why ya think something won't fly - maybe offering some lateral options like Gideon does in #13
See that's the way I see it. When someone posts these things, they aren't thinking copyright issues, etc. They're thinking "that's really cool, how can I DO that?"
I think it's in our best efforts to encourage potential young developers to steer them to places where they might be able to implement their ideas.
To the original poster: You had a legitimate question. But you're not going to be take seriously if you delete everything as soon as you get a couple of flames.
ZubaZ
Reply #40 Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:27 AM
Reply #40 Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:27 AM
Alternate settings and Gideon make good points. I can agree with both of them.
But . . a thicker skin and more determination is required for any almost any project to succeed. This poster is missing that. A little humor can't hurt either.
Could the community been more "welcoming"? Sure. But what you got was what is here. Some jokers, some helpers, even the lurkers pipe in now and again. No one should have been surprised or offended by the responses.
Could OP have laughed along with the jokers and continued his serious (?) topic? Sure. But instead you had a punk throwing a fit, after very few responses.
In the end . . no one is a winner here. Too bad really.
But . . a thicker skin and more determination is required for any almost any project to succeed. This poster is missing that. A little humor can't hurt either.
Could the community been more "welcoming"? Sure. But what you got was what is here. Some jokers, some helpers, even the lurkers pipe in now and again. No one should have been surprised or offended by the responses.
Could OP have laughed along with the jokers and continued his serious (?) topic? Sure. But instead you had a punk throwing a fit, after very few responses.
In the end . . no one is a winner here. Too bad really.
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Reply #21 Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:43 AM
I must say that I look forward to a short lived OS that is "based on Windows", where the programmer doesn't even have the ability to construct a sentence that is readable....
Can you imagine the dialog boxes?
"This porgram has perfrmed an ilegal opperation and will be shut down
Exception 0xC0000005 basically cause your idiot"