SkinStudio 6 Beta Feedback
Tuesday, August 7, 2007 by Neil Banfield | Discussion: Stardock Support General
Please post general feedback about SkinStudio 6 here.
You must have WindowBlinds 6 beta installed to use SKS6, but any skins made with it should work with WindowBlinds 5 as well.
This is a beta so you should expect missing sections and bugs. If you find SKS is missing support for a specific section, please let us know!
If you are working on a new skin it would be best to ensure it is backed up before using SKS6. Remember in this beta all changes are saved instantly!
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Reply #122 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 2:05 AM
Posted about it outside of this thread.
Have to say, without feeling too much of a whiner about it....as a relatively new customer to Stardock products, the lack of support and documentation with software leaves much to be desired.
Reply #123 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 2:38 AM
Yeah, I'm getting that same message... would be nice to get this fixed....
I'm having the same problem too...help me...what should I do??
Reply #124 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 2:54 AM
Stardock is on Holiday break. Things like this are not that common, I'm sure it will be 'rectified' as soon as possible.
My first suggestion will be to wait till stardock returns from Holiday break on the 2nd, at the latest. There could be many reasons why this occured.
Reply #125 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 2:55 AM
SGT
This really works. Thanks! In guess we'll have to wait till everybody gets back to work on the 2nd for a real fix on the issue.
Happy New Year Everyone!!
Reply #126 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 5:28 AM
Opps. Sorry the betas are sometimes time limited and it seems we all forgot that this one was set to 2008.
I will see about getting a new build up later today.
Reply #127 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 7:12 AM
I will see about getting a new build up later today.
Thanks Neil I was just about to ask !
A/V
Reply #128 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 10:21 AM
SGT
This really works. Thanks! In guess we'll have to wait till everybody gets back to work on the 2nd for a real fix on the issue.
Thanks Xiandi - it does work till the team gets things back up again.
I will see about getting a new build up later today.
Thank you Neil! Hope everyone is having a good New Year already!!!
SGT
Reply #130 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 1:23 PM
Trying to start up my current install results in a search for the program...It is not installed anymore??
Have tried updating SDC and nothing shows for V6.
Reply #131 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 1:28 PM
Reply #133 Sunday, January 6, 2008 9:20 AM
Reply #134 Sunday, January 6, 2008 10:35 AM
Plz
Reply #135 Sunday, January 6, 2008 5:52 PM
You mean like SKS5? HeHe. Did you quit smokin' or sumthin?
Reply #136 Sunday, January 27, 2008 2:48 PM
.016 but when I go to update it say your skinstudio professional is invallid but it wont shut up I can not have it set to ignore it (got someone else paying for computer) I would like to beta test the versons or go ahead and buy it witch it wont let me do that eather I dont want object desktop I have attached a screanshot that has all the info if you can help me 
Reply #137 Monday, March 24, 2008 1:30 PM
Loosing the tabbed, MDI based environment in favor for a locked focus popup wizard is just plain a BAD idea.
BAD IDEA'S / BUGS
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Controls Tree View
- Poorly labeled
- Bad Sorting
- No Right Click menu
Popup Windows VS MDI
- Can't open more than one section at a time.
- Focus is locked to newly created popup frame.
Can no longer right click, Delete a section.
- You have to change selected image drop down to the "No Image" manually
Sub Styles Loose Support
- Can't Save As, New SubStyle in current skin.
- No sub style selector, you must manually open a new instance of SK6 then open the skin and select the sub style.
Preview of Skin
- No longer can you click on an object in the preview to jump to editing that object.
- Can't look at complete preview while editing an object, you are limited to the preview of the section you are editing. Since the popup frame is locked you can't alt-tab to the main frame where the complete preview is located.
Object properties
- now multiple tabs, instead of the DevEnv style Properties frame.
The bottom line is go to SK5 and count the number of clicks it takes to get something done, then go do the same thing in SK6 and it will take 2x or 3x as many clicks. Less information is displayed to you at once thanks to the loss of the MDI form.
If Visual Studio came out showing you less information about your program and taking you twice as long to accomplish tasks, it would be thrown in the trash and never used again. Everyone would just stick with the superior previous version.
Which is exactly what should happen here.
Everyone just stick with SK5.
Reply #138 Monday, March 24, 2008 2:32 PM
Visual studio is build to be extensible. SKS5 wasn't. SKS6 is. It's now easier to skin, and the program is able to grow with windowblinds without getting too complicated. What more would you want?
Reply #139 Monday, March 24, 2008 5:44 PM
1. I can click on "Open Skin" choose which skin I want, then choose which version of the WB I want.
2. I can click "File - open current windowblinds skin" then still have to choose which version I need to work on.
Both are time consuming because you have to do it every time you open Skin Studio.
Sure you have the "Recent skins" but you still have to choose which version to open, if you have more than one version in the folder. It's ok if you only have "one" version.
In the old version of Skin Studio, you could click a button and choose between the last 4 skins you were working on. It didn't matter if they were XP or Vista, it would keep the "Version" of the WB you were working on.
Well, it's been 6 months since I asked this.
Is it going to be an option?
Really needs to have a button for "Open current skin running" or "Open Previous Skin" (which will open the skin you were just working on "XP or Vista").
Reply #140 Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:32 AM
syonin:
It is true you can only open one section at a time, but even in SKS5 you could really only edit one section at a time. Yes you could scroll around in the tree and find values, but you would then need to go back. SKS6 does have a similar tree option (see the second preferences page) if you wish. The release version of SKS6 also adds next and prev links so you can quickly switch between the SKS6 'pages'.
To delete a section just select the image drop down and press space. SKS6 will then delete that section and all values relating to it. If you have SKS6 pro then you will see the code tab is then empty.
If you want to create a new substyle from the current substyle, you can do this from the File Menu. Pick substyle management and then click add. You can then name the substyle and pick which of the current substyles you want to base the new substyle on.
To switch substyles just use the Tools menu. It has a handy switch substyle entry. It is true that you can also open a second instance of SKS6 if you wish. SKS6 is very memory efficient and this works well.
It is true you cannot click on the previews to open up that part, but SKS6 does have the Theme part details screen which shows you pictures of various theme parts and double clicking on these would open up the correct section in the skin.
SKS6 is different to SKS5 and it may take some time for users used to SKS5 to adjust to it, but new users should find it much simpler and easier to use and hopefully more logical too. Nobody is stopping you using SKS5, but remember that it does not support the new Vista sections in WB and it will remove any startmenu animation if you edit the skin. Also don't run the skin checker as it can seriously break a skin.
One of the major advantages to SKS6 is that it is developed by the WindowBlinds team rather than a seperate team. This means new features in WB can be added into SKS much quicker.
Constructive criticism is always welcomed.
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Reply #121 Tuesday, January 1, 2008 12:11 AM