OD 1.6 Beta Bug Reports

Hiccups on the path to greatness...

Monday, April 2, 2007 by CerebroJD | Discussion: Docks

Well, we're now into the beta testing phase for the popular graphical shortcut and taskbar replacement, ObjectDock!  However, with all developement, there are growing pains as well.  Its best to get them all gathered together here in one place, where the developer can pop in and keep us all up to speed on changes and fixes.

Without further ado, I declare this thread open for business!
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Dr W - Fences Support
Reply #141 Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:59 PM
virtualrain: OD's Vista minimize animation minimizes apps into ObjectDock taskbars that are on zooming docks (and only zooming docks). The feature only works if you have thumbnails enabled, and for non-grouped windows only. So if you want the animation always, I'd recommend turning taskbar grouping off.

Dr W - Fences Support
Reply #142 Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:12 PM
virtualrain: also, there's a note when you click it in the next refresh and the option grays out... if you have "always show thumbnails" clicked, there is no minimize animation as the image for the window is already being used as the thumbnail on the icon itself.

Thanks for the screenshot, yeah thats wierd behavior...can I ask, are any of the above running as administrator? Ran-as-admin apps will have trouble with the "show minimized apps only"/etc feature unless ObjectDock also is ran as admin. Realistically I should just be excluding them, since I can't keep track of them. So if say you had an admin app minimized when you started ObjectDock, and then restored it...OD would have no idea because of Window's security. The thumbnails being crappy icons instead of real representations, now that's just Window's fault...you probably recently came out of suspend or a screensaver or something like that, at which point Vista discards the information of the thumbnail and I cannot use it anymore.

virtualrain
Reply #143 Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:24 PM
virtualrain: also, there's a note when you click it in the next refresh and the option grays out... if you have "always show thumbnails" clicked, there is no minimize animation as the image for the window is already being used as the thumbnail on the icon itself.



Ok, I unchecked "always show windows as thumbnails (Vista only)" and the animations worked as expected. That's great! But then why is this option even there? With my settings as shown below, all this check box appears to do is enable or disable the animation. Perhaps it should be unchecked and greyed out when "Types of windows to show" is set to "Minimized windows only"? Users will likely be confused by what this option is supposed to do when there settings are as shown below. It's redundant with the checkbox lower down that says "Represent minimized windows by their screenshots". I'm not sure I'm not confused.



virtualrain
Reply #144 Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:30 PM


Thanks for the screenshot, yeah thats wierd behavior...can I ask, are any of the above running as administrator?


Here are the properties for the excel shortcut I used to launch excel where the icons were all screwed up. Note that run as administrator is not selected or enabled.



Could the screwed up icons be somewhat related to my problem above where I had all three of these somewhat confusing and overlapping features turned on?

- Types of windows to show = minimized windows only
- Always show windows as thumbnails (Vista Only) = on
- Represent minimized windows by their screenshots = on

??? I think you need to clarify these settings or clean them up.


virtualrain
Reply #145 Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:35 PM
One other thing I've noticed... for whatever reason, MS Project 2003 refuses to use the OD animation even though other applications do. It insist on using the Vista animation.

Samurai303
Reply #146 Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:19 AM
JMBdev: Re the "objectdock closes sometimes" problems, I've had it happen again today & there is no crash log, but it does seem to be triggered by leaving the machine for a while & the screensaver activating if that is any help.

CerebroJD
Reply #147 Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:48 PM
Jeff, hit a bit of an annoying problem... I cant right-click on Live Messenger if I'm signed in.  I can if I'm signed out, but not if I'm signed in using a zoomer dock as my system tray.  Someone else had the same problem as well I think, but i cant remember who.

Dr W - Fences Support
Reply #148 Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:38 PM
CerebroJD: yep yeah several people have reported the windows live messenger problem. got a report about Outlook 2007 as well. Both are fixed in the build I'm uploading as we speak

Oops, actually looks like it just finished. So in that case, announcement time!

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***New v1.6 build is now available on Stardock Central! Should fix the majority of problems that have been mentioned on these boards

Fixes include:

1.59b beta
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x-Fixed mouse lagginess on startup / when ObjectDock is busy.

x-Improved system tray, should now work more reliably than ever! Outlook 2007 and Windows Live Messenger should both now work reliably.

x-Fixed issue where autohiding tabbed docks would not autohide anymore after you right clicked anything.

x-Fixed up a couple minor resource leaks

x-Improved taskbars / thumbnail behavior.

x-Added option to turn off tabbed docks' ability to automatically dock to the edge as a drawer when dragging. Option available in "misc options".

x-Fixed multimonitor issue with the Start Menu functionality, and added better problem-notification.

x-Fixed issue with flyouts where if they contained 9+ items and zooming is disabled, they could show up partially behind the dock.

x-Fixed issue where icons for url-shortcuts would not get remembered

x-UI improvments

virtualrain
Reply #149 Friday, April 20, 2007 2:02 AM
JMBdev... I like what you did with the UI for the minimize effect... much clearer now.

With my settings as shown here...



I still have a problem with Excel or Powerpoint 2007 icons. If I only have one instance of either Excel or Powerpoint open... no problems. As soon as I open a second instance of either one, even with neither instance minimized... I get two icons as shown below in the dock...



If I then minimze Excel (or Powerpoint), the proper icon will appear in the dock, including the thumb, but the other two are still there...



For some reason, with the way these apps handle MDI windows, the OD thinks it's got two minimized apps when there isn't. Let me know if you have any questions.

Note also this doesn't happen with Word 2007 because when you open two instances of Word, you actually get two windows. With Powerpoint and Excel, multiple instances may be started but only show a single window.

JMB1984
Reply #150 Friday, April 20, 2007 2:40 AM

virtualrain: thanks thought you could appreciate that!

gez. that is wierd. I'll have to take a look at that specifically...can't say with 100% confidence I'll be able to work around it immediatly though...not sure what rules its trying to play by. (If the Office UI itself and how it works under the covers is any indicator, not by the ones everyone else plays by! )


Cepheid
Reply #151 Friday, April 20, 2007 7:59 AM
Greetings. 1.59b still reports that the mouse dll/hook failed to load. (NO DLL, mouse) This is new behavior with the 1.59 series of releases. Is it possible for me to get an old copy of 1.58, as I have grown rather dependent upon OD+?

JMB1984
Reply #152 Friday, April 20, 2007 11:50 AM

Cepheid: Something is going wrong with your install. Try emailing support they may have a better walkthrough for you...but I would recommend trying uninstalling (but preserving your settings) with Stardock Central, rebooting, making sure the ObjectDock directory is manually cleared out of all program files (DockShellHook.dll specifically in your case), and then reinstall from SDC again.


SteveGosselin
Reply #153 Friday, April 20, 2007 10:15 PM
Hi,

All seems to works fine for me with latest objectdock plus 1.6 except this feature (included in 1.5 build) >>

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Thanx in advance.

JMB1984
Reply #154 Saturday, April 21, 2007 3:08 AM

Hi Darken, XP or Vista? On Vista I had a much more reliable time getting folder icons and can even get the live-previews when available ; I dont think we'd see that on that platform so let me know if it is. On XP on the other hand its markedly less pleasent, it's completly different routine. Which are you using?

-Jeff Bargmann
ObjectDock Lead Developer


SteveGosselin
Reply #155 Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:17 PM
Hi JMB1984, doh! I use Windows XP.

CaptainBeaker
Reply #156 Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:39 AM
I keep getting a Start Button docklet error - Can't display Start Menu - error injecting start menu helper - or something to that effect.

I'm running the latest OD beta on Vista Home Premium.

JMB1984
Reply #157 Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:42 PM

Hi Captain - is UAC enabled? If so, is either explorer or ObjectDock being run as "administrator"?


Cavan1
Reply #158 Sunday, April 22, 2007 7:43 PM
Hey Jeff; just noticed something with the new weather docklet. Not sure if would be on your end or AccuWeather.com. Have updated weather 3 times, at AccuWeather.com temp for my location is 68, on docklet it is showing 51.

In Firefox I use Forecastfox, which uses AccuWeather also, it is displaying proper temp.

JMB1984
Reply #159 Sunday, April 22, 2007 9:01 PM

Cavan1: we're still at work getting our feed 100% on the updating...here's a quick way to check the data of the feed. (We're using a 100% legit feed now, accuweather pushes us the data thanks to a contract we have with them ) Hold shift+control and then rightclick->configure on the weather docklet. It'll show the last update date/time for the two feeds involved. I think the forecast one is generally a little ahead, but yeah. So ok, yes for me it seems to be an hour off...hasn't updated since 8:15...and the temp has dropped considerably in that period of time. It'll be an ongoing process

Thanks,

-Jeff


CaptainBeaker
Reply #160 Sunday, April 22, 2007 9:11 PM
UAC is not enabled.

Should I be running OD as administrator?

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