OD 1.6 Beta Bug Reports
Hiccups on the path to greatness...
Monday, April 2, 2007 by CerebroJD | Discussion: Docks
Well, we're now into the beta testing phase for the popular graphical shortcut and taskbar replacement, ObjectDock! However, with all developement, there are growing pains as well. Its best to get them all gathered together here in one place, where the developer can pop in and keep us all up to speed on changes and fixes.
Without further ado, I declare this thread open for business!
Without further ado, I declare this thread open for business!
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DigitalCHET
Reply #22 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:05 PM
Thanks Jeff. You're right, one should not need a code, yet entering in the "City, country" format provides no results either, so I thought a code like Weather.com used to provide would work. But I, and others have tried to work out a location's code from the site but have had no success.
MikeM seems to be having the same problem.
I'm installing the latest update to see if that fixes it and will report on any improvements.
Reply #22 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:05 PM
DigiCHET: Shouldn't need a code, you should be able to type in the location AccuWeather recognizes and it should show up. Given we did have some problems early on with missing locations...even places like Berlin weren't matching up 
Hoping this is closer to cleared up though.
Hoping this is closer to cleared up though.Thanks Jeff. You're right, one should not need a code, yet entering in the "City, country" format provides no results either, so I thought a code like Weather.com used to provide would work. But I, and others have tried to work out a location's code from the site but have had no success.
MikeM seems to be having the same problem.
I'm installing the latest update to see if that fixes it and will report on any improvements.
Dr W - Fences Support
Reply #23 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:08 PM
Reply #23 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:08 PM
CarpeThis: Does the problem happen if you disable windowblinds then open a new IE7 window and try the steps above?
MySecret
Reply #24 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:22 PM
Reply #24 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:22 PM
I just updated to v1.58a[b].009 & I am unable to show the system tray icons at all
I rebooted after update
I am using Windows XP Pro SP2
I cleaned the cache, starting with a fresh OD+
I can choose to show only icons, minimized or all windows
I checked & unchecked every setting available in OD and tried after each, just in case
It's My Secret
I rebooted after update
I am using Windows XP Pro SP2
I cleaned the cache, starting with a fresh OD+
I can choose to show only icons, minimized or all windows
I checked & unchecked every setting available in OD and tried after each, just in case
It's My Secret
jaknights
Reply #25 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:37 PM
Reply #25 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:37 PM
Will the recycle bin not changing images be corrected soon???
MySecret
Reply #26 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:46 PM
I have the latest update v1.58a[b].009 and I am unable to get any results. I went to accuweather and each place that I picked does show up on their site. I also tried changing units as well.
It's My Secret
Reply #26 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:46 PM
Thanks Jeff. You're right, one should not need a code, yet entering in the "City, country" format provides no results either, so I thought a code like Weather.com used to provide would work. But I, and others have tried to work out a location's code from the site but have had no success.
MikeM seems to be having the same problem.
MikeM seems to be having the same problem.
I have the latest update v1.58a[b].009 and I am unable to get any results. I went to accuweather and each place that I picked does show up on their site. I also tried changing units as well.
It's My Secret
neoMWH
Reply #27 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:55 PM
Here's the problem Im having,even tho im directly moused over an icon it's text is not displaying.It dosent do this at first and only does it if I go back and fourth on the dock.
Reply #27 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 6:55 PM
Here's the problem Im having,even tho im directly moused over an icon it's text is not displaying.It dosent do this at first and only does it if I go back and fourth on the dock.
ZubaZ
Reply #28 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 7:09 PM
Reply #28 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 7:09 PM
Ditto MySecrets weather problem. Tries "77339", "Houston, TX" and "Houston Texas".
thomassen
Reply #29 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 7:39 PM
Reply #29 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 7:39 PM
My games tab is the best example of the tiny looking icons. By the looks of it it's all icons that doesn't got a size over 32x32.
thomassen
Reply #30 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 7:47 PM
Reply #30 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 7:47 PM
Or at least all icons which doesn't support the size of the dock.
jaknights
Reply #31 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 7:58 PM
Reply #31 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 7:58 PM
I just downloaded the 1.6 beta-the recycle bin issue is fixed-now why do the entry mouseover labels appear under or partially obscurred by tabbed dock itself?
CarpeThis
Reply #32 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 8:28 PM
Reply #32 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 8:28 PM
** Always on Top Issue **
I tried unloading WindowBlinds and rerunning the IE7 tests, and I'm getting the almost the same results. But without running WindowBlinds the results are now not %100 consistent.
Without running WindowBlinds:
If I use F11 to go back and forth from Full Screen in IE7, (I paused about 10 seconds between switches just in case it was some type of timing thing) sometimes the docks behave correctly and sometimes the don't. Maybe 50% of the time it worked correctly. Very strange....
Out of the types of docks that I have, the zoomer dock with just the running tasks seemed to stay on top in full screen more than the others. It might not be relevant, but something that I noticed. (Now they are not all acting the same i.e. all of the docks on top or all of them on the bottom)
Just another data point.....
With another application, FastStone Image Viewer 3.0 (http://www.faststone.org) the docks are always on top when viewing images in full screen or slideshow mode. The docks "Always on Top" worked correctly in the previous versions. So the new methods are now keeping the docks always on top even in full screen mode.
Thanks for hanging in there on this issue, I know it must be a pain to track down....
I tried unloading WindowBlinds and rerunning the IE7 tests, and I'm getting the almost the same results. But without running WindowBlinds the results are now not %100 consistent.
Without running WindowBlinds:
If I use F11 to go back and forth from Full Screen in IE7, (I paused about 10 seconds between switches just in case it was some type of timing thing) sometimes the docks behave correctly and sometimes the don't. Maybe 50% of the time it worked correctly. Very strange....
Out of the types of docks that I have, the zoomer dock with just the running tasks seemed to stay on top in full screen more than the others. It might not be relevant, but something that I noticed. (Now they are not all acting the same i.e. all of the docks on top or all of them on the bottom)
Just another data point.....
With another application, FastStone Image Viewer 3.0 (http://www.faststone.org) the docks are always on top when viewing images in full screen or slideshow mode. The docks "Always on Top" worked correctly in the previous versions. So the new methods are now keeping the docks always on top even in full screen mode.
Thanks for hanging in there on this issue, I know it must be a pain to track down....
Nimbin
Reply #33 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 9:23 PM
Reply #33 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 9:23 PM
i havent experienced any problems what so ever with the new objectdock 1.6
everything is working as it should, i have tested dragging icons on and off the docks, all fine, looks like i got lucky
system
AMD 64 3000+ 2ghz
1.5Gb RAM
ATi 9600 pro 256mb video card
WINXP service pack 2
love the new version, hope everyone gets the bugs worked out soon, but none in mine
everything is working as it should, i have tested dragging icons on and off the docks, all fine, looks like i got lucky
system
AMD 64 3000+ 2ghz
1.5Gb RAM
ATi 9600 pro 256mb video card
WINXP service pack 2
love the new version, hope everyone gets the bugs worked out soon, but none in mine
Cavan1
Reply #34 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:28 PM
Reply #34 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:28 PM
Hey Jeff; just tried the refresh, nice job fixing the attention effects.
New issue; I have My Documents, Videos, Pictures and Music on my zoomer dock, set to default icons so IconPackager icons will be applied. In 1.6 beta the default folder icon from the IP package I am using is being applied to all instead of the specific icon for each.
New issue; I have My Documents, Videos, Pictures and Music on my zoomer dock, set to default icons so IconPackager icons will be applied. In 1.6 beta the default folder icon from the IP package I am using is being applied to all instead of the specific icon for each.
Cavan1
Reply #35 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:35 PM
Reply #35 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:35 PM
For those with weather docklet code issues, I had a problem with this at first. For most weather docklets/widgets I would use Peterborough,Canada; for this I did a search at accuweather and found that it was city/province not city/country for Canada, so it was Peterborough,ON. Even spelling out Ontario did not work, it had to be the short form.
Hope this helps someone.
Hope this helps someone.
GhoS
Reply #36 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:37 PM
Reply #36 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:37 PM
I have the same issue as MySecret, no system tray icons. I just can't get them to show. On XP SP2 as well.
Even though I rarely need the tray, I still need it accessible.
Even though I rarely need the tray, I still need it accessible.
Chris TH
Reply #37 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:54 PM
Ditto for me. XP SP2.
When I updated initially it was working fine, then I read in the history about it using a new trayserver exe & so I fiddled with the MCP settings in SDC which seems to have broken it.
Right now I have both "Enable MCP notification area support" and "Enable MCP SmartStartup" checked and rebooted but te tray doesn't show. I have also tried with both unchecked and no result. What should the settings be for MCP in SDC to use the new OD+ ?
Reply #37 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:54 PM
I have the same issue as MySecret, no system tray icons. I just can't get them to show. On XP SP2 as well.
Even though I rarely need the tray, I still need it accessible.
Even though I rarely need the tray, I still need it accessible.
Ditto for me. XP SP2.
When I updated initially it was working fine, then I read in the history about it using a new trayserver exe & so I fiddled with the MCP settings in SDC which seems to have broken it.
Right now I have both "Enable MCP notification area support" and "Enable MCP SmartStartup" checked and rebooted but te tray doesn't show. I have also tried with both unchecked and no result. What should the settings be for MCP in SDC to use the new OD+ ?
Dr W - Fences Support
Reply #38 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 11:35 PM
Reply #38 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 11:35 PM
I'd recommend disabling MCP if you don't need it for ObjectBar (which will be updated also to use this new module) - the new OD+ doesn't use it.
Dr W - Fences Support
Reply #39 Wednesday, April 4, 2007 2:30 AM
Reply #39 Wednesday, April 4, 2007 2:30 AM
thomassen: alright, i got the inspiration to do it 
fixed for the next refresh that we have which should be sometime probably start of/early next week. added lightweight code to detect if an icon has been crappified by explorer and if so it loads the regular size version. no more mini-icons 
Cavan1: good callout. Special folders should always get their special icons, not live icons. Found a way to detect that, so that too will be fixed for the next refresh. Thanks much for the tip, I wouldn't have noticed that one
By the way! If anyone is getting any crashing at any point e.g. I've heard a couple people say they had a problem on dragging something off...please please forward over the saved bug log to stardock support with "v1.6" somewhere in the subject!! Thanks! (If you forgot to save it, there's a chance it could be hanging out in your ObjectDock install folder if you know where to find it. Vista may stop it due to the whole UAC bit, but otherwise it was designed to keep the last few saved automatically)
A note about Always On Top problems while I'm at it...I definitely do see it with IE7 going fullscreen with WindowBlinds enabled...probably because its not actually filling the screen. WB bug I suppose. But at any rate, Explorer doesn't seem to hide either. So perhaps I'm doing the technically "correct" thing there. Bleh.
-Jeff
fixed for the next refresh that we have which should be sometime probably start of/early next week. added lightweight code to detect if an icon has been crappified by explorer and if so it loads the regular size version. no more mini-icons 
Cavan1: good callout. Special folders should always get their special icons, not live icons. Found a way to detect that, so that too will be fixed for the next refresh. Thanks much for the tip, I wouldn't have noticed that one
By the way! If anyone is getting any crashing at any point e.g. I've heard a couple people say they had a problem on dragging something off...please please forward over the saved bug log to stardock support with "v1.6" somewhere in the subject!! Thanks! (If you forgot to save it, there's a chance it could be hanging out in your ObjectDock install folder if you know where to find it. Vista may stop it due to the whole UAC bit, but otherwise it was designed to keep the last few saved automatically)
A note about Always On Top problems while I'm at it...I definitely do see it with IE7 going fullscreen with WindowBlinds enabled...probably because its not actually filling the screen. WB bug I suppose. But at any rate, Explorer doesn't seem to hide either. So perhaps I'm doing the technically "correct" thing there. Bleh.
-Jeff
kadyo
Reply #40 Wednesday, April 4, 2007 2:44 AM
Reply #40 Wednesday, April 4, 2007 2:44 AM
I'm also having the same problems with the Weather Docklet. And when I added a separator and tried to switch an icon on the other side of the separator the icon disappeared. It however reappeared after I restarted my computer. I tried putting in my zip code, city name (even tried all the major cities and zip code in Ca that I can think of) and I still get a location not found. I have OD plus unblocked from my firewall.
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Reply #21 Tuesday, April 3, 2007 5:01 PM
** Always on Top ** issues
Installed the latest OD beta 1.58a[b].009
This is on Windows XP SP2 (all current updates)
Very clean system (nothing else funky running except Avast Antivirus)
Using WindowBlinds 5.5.023
(I haven't seen any of issues where it's staying on top of or under just the WindowBlinds Skin)
Using IconPackager 3.19d[b].014
Docks I have: (if it makes any difference)
All docks are set to "Always be on Top"
1 regular dock with only running tasks
1 regular dock with shortcut icons
1 regular dock with systray icons (Autohide)
1 tabbed dock
(All of the docks have been "On Top" or "On Bottom" so it doesn't seem to be affected by the contents of the docks)
With Internet Explorer 7: (different tests)
(1)
Start OD
Start IE7 Normal Window
OD Docks are on Top (Correct)
Hit F11 Go to Full Screen in IE7
OD Docks are still on Top (Incorrect)
(2)
Start OD
Start IE7 in Full Screen
OD Docks are on Bottom (Correct)
Hit F11 exit Full Screen in IE
OD Docks are still on Bottom (incorrect)
Give another window the focus (not IE)
OD Docks are on Top (Correct)
Give IE The Focus (IE is not in Full Screen)
OD Docks are on Top (Correct)
Hit F11 Go to Full Screen in IE7
OD Docks are still on Top (Incorrect)
Thanks for working this issue, it's been driving me crazy....
Let me know if you would like any more info or have me run any other tests with IE or some other full screen app.