Stardock & Vista Compatibility
A quick look at the next few months
Wednesday, January 31, 2007 by Zoomba | Discussion: OS Customization
NOTICE: THIS POST IS NO LONGER CURRENT.
With the launch of Windows Vista this week, questions are coming up regarding our plans to update our software to support the new operating system. You've already seen Brad's article on our product roadmap where he discusses programs such as LogonStudio Vista and the new versions of IconPackager, WindowBlinds and DesktopX. The article is a great look at what we've got cooking for the next few months.
However, people have been looking for some sort of compatibility list for our applications, to know what they can use right now with Vista, and when they can expect the rest of their favorite applications to reach a "Vista Ready" state. To help everyone out, I've put together the following chart for what we have in the pipe right now. This is a sort of sneak-peak into our release schedule up through the first half of 2007. If you don't see a product on this list, it means it's either not on our first half 2007 calendar, or we are still investigating what will need to be done to update the program for Vista. Do not take an omission from this list to mean that a given program is being abandoned.
| Vista Status | Vista Version | Testing Phase | Targeted Release | |
| DeskScapes | Ready | 1.0 | February 2007 | |
| BootSkin Vista | In Development | 1.0 | Spring 2007 | |
| LogonStudio Vista | In Testing | 2.0 | Beta | Spring 2007 |
| CursorVista | In Development | 1.0 | Spring 2007 | |
| TweakVista | In Development | 1.0 | Spring 2007 | |
| WindowBlinds | Ready | 5.5 | February 2007 | |
| IconPackager | In Testing | 3.5 | Beta | February 2007 |
| DesktopX | In Testing | 3.5 | Alpha | Spring 2007 |
| ObjectDock | Ready | 1.5 | Currently Available | |
| IconDeveloper | Ready | 1.5 | Currently Available | |
| SkinStudio | In Testing | 5.5 | Alpha | Spring 2007 |
| Theme Manager | In Development | 3.0 | Spring 2007 | |
| KeepSafe | In Testing | Alpha | Unknown | |
| Multiplicity | Ready | 1.1 |
We will periodically post updates to this chart to keep everyone as up-to-date as we can on our progress towards Vista compatibility. As you can see from the chart, we already have our flagship product, WindowBlinds, ready for Vista, and other core customization applications such as IconPackager and DesktopX are very close to being released. On top of that you can see some of the brand new products we're developing just for Vista such as TweakVista.
With the launch of Vista, it's a very exciting time for GUI customization and we're working as fast as we can to deliver the next generation of customization software.
EDIT: Fixed bad info on Multiplicity. Version 1.1 works fine with Vista.
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Wh00079
Reply #22 Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:16 PM
I second that question! I am, running an eval copy of Vista Ultimate that I got from the launch event @ the convention center in San Francisco. They were only handing out 32 bit versions but when I do buy the upgrade, I need the 64 too. I would hate to think that I am going to have to wait for months and months before I can use my Object Dock subscription again. Especially since I just bought it a month ago.
Reply #22 Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:16 PM
what about x64 vista support for windowblinds?
I second that question! I am, running an eval copy of Vista Ultimate that I got from the launch event @ the convention center in San Francisco. They were only handing out 32 bit versions but when I do buy the upgrade, I need the 64 too. I would hate to think that I am going to have to wait for months and months before I can use my Object Dock subscription again. Especially since I just bought it a month ago.
Zoomba
Reply #23 Tuesday, February 6, 2007 10:35 PM
Reply #23 Tuesday, February 6, 2007 10:35 PM
At this moment, WindowBlinds for Vista is 32-bit only. We are currently looking into 64bit to see what sorts of technical challenges things like PatchGuard may present.
Excalpius
Reply #24 Wednesday, February 7, 2007 1:09 AM
Reply #24 Wednesday, February 7, 2007 1:09 AM
That little colored spreadsheet/table is nifty. We can come back and check this at our leisure. Nicely done. Thanks.
Grapes1
Reply #25 Friday, February 9, 2007 8:47 PM
Reply #25 Friday, February 9, 2007 8:47 PM
I would just like to say "BRAVO and CONGRATULATIONS" to all the Tech's that are working on the Vista issues!!! I worked on the XP merger and vowed that I'd never do anything like that again, and I didn't. But, I really admire and definately give you props for taking on Vista and having it be compatible with Stardock et al. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!! I certainly do appreciate ALL that you guys do and I know from experience Microsoft doesn't help much with 3rd party softwares. They suck for that, but hey that which makes us stronger in the computer game, makes us more money....right? LOL, anyway, A huge thanks from this lil' 'ol user. Keep up the great work you're doing, I know it is real hard!!! 
Jay
Jay
MarcRoyce
Reply #26 Friday, February 9, 2007 9:07 PM
Reply #26 Friday, February 9, 2007 9:07 PM
I too get classic windows on windowblinds with Vista
kaihilgers
Reply #27 Saturday, March 3, 2007 7:33 AM
Reply #27 Saturday, March 3, 2007 7:33 AM
Is there a special section where I can find some more Vista-Themes here? only the Themes wich comes with the WB5.5 are workin, all other skins on the site doesnt. any suggestions where to find other themes especially for Vista? Thanks!
PurrBall
Reply #28 Saturday, March 3, 2007 1:17 PM
Make sure the "Stardock WindowBlinds" service is started and set to automatic.
Also, I'm not seeing ID 1.5 in SDC.
Reply #28 Saturday, March 3, 2007 1:17 PM
I too get classic windows on windowblinds with Vista
Make sure the "Stardock WindowBlinds" service is started and set to automatic.
Also, I'm not seeing ID 1.5 in SDC.
cavalierex
Reply #29 Saturday, March 3, 2007 4:17 PM
Reply #29 Saturday, March 3, 2007 4:17 PM
ObjectDock 1.5 Plus bugs in Vista:
Non-tabbed dock:
- Occasionally, icons will disappear; but then reappear with mouse-over. Don't know what caused this... It is rare (only happened three times), so I can't figure out the etiology.
- Trash bin does not update image after trash is emptied.
Tabbed dock:
- Even though I keep the dock with normal z-ordering and 'on-top' is unchecked, the dock will periodically stay on-top of other windows. Clickin on the desired/focused window does NOT bring the window to the top -- that is, the dock still claims top z-order. The only way to push it back down is to manually check 'on-top' and then uncheck it again.
Non-tabbed dock:
- Occasionally, icons will disappear; but then reappear with mouse-over. Don't know what caused this... It is rare (only happened three times), so I can't figure out the etiology.
- Trash bin does not update image after trash is emptied.
Tabbed dock:
- Even though I keep the dock with normal z-ordering and 'on-top' is unchecked, the dock will periodically stay on-top of other windows. Clickin on the desired/focused window does NOT bring the window to the top -- that is, the dock still claims top z-order. The only way to push it back down is to manually check 'on-top' and then uncheck it again.
thomassen
Reply #30 Saturday, March 3, 2007 7:37 PM
I experience that my self. I think it might be a Windows bug actually if I remember correctly. Think it was planned to be fixed in a service pack. At least I hope so.
But it's be nice if they could implement a temp workaround that would set the ontop and unset it at OD startup.
Reply #30 Saturday, March 3, 2007 7:37 PM
Tabbed dock:
- Even though I keep the dock with normal z-ordering and 'on-top' is unchecked, the dock will periodically stay on-top of other windows. Clickin on the desired/focused window does NOT bring the window to the top -- that is, the dock still claims top z-order. The only way to push it back down is to manually check 'on-top' and then uncheck it again.
- Even though I keep the dock with normal z-ordering and 'on-top' is unchecked, the dock will periodically stay on-top of other windows. Clickin on the desired/focused window does NOT bring the window to the top -- that is, the dock still claims top z-order. The only way to push it back down is to manually check 'on-top' and then uncheck it again.
I experience that my self. I think it might be a Windows bug actually if I remember correctly. Think it was planned to be fixed in a service pack. At least I hope so.
But it's be nice if they could implement a temp workaround that would set the ontop and unset it at OD startup.
SteveGosselin
Reply #31 Monday, March 5, 2007 8:51 PM
Reply #31 Monday, March 5, 2007 8:51 PM
I don't see IconX on the list at all - what's the status? Thanx for the infos. 
MySecret
Reply #32 Tuesday, March 6, 2007 10:31 AM
Reply #32 Tuesday, March 6, 2007 10:31 AM
Darken Quote from Zoomba
It's My Secret
The list is only our schedule for the next few months. Products not listed are not abandoned, merely beyond the spring time frame. The further out into the future you look, the less firm things become. We can speak with some confidence about the near future, but beyond that we don't want to state a date or month and then miss it.
It's My Secret
cavalierex
Reply #34 Saturday, March 10, 2007 2:37 PM
Reply #34 Saturday, March 10, 2007 2:37 PM
One more ObjectDock bug in Vista:
If using Alt-Tab to switch to the Desktop (or if choosing the 'Show Desktop' icon in the taskbar's quick-access area), the regular dock disappears, while the tabbed dock stays in-view.
I believe that BOTH docks should remain visible. (That is, the regular, untabbed one should not disappear.)
If using Alt-Tab to switch to the Desktop (or if choosing the 'Show Desktop' icon in the taskbar's quick-access area), the regular dock disappears, while the tabbed dock stays in-view.
I believe that BOTH docks should remain visible. (That is, the regular, untabbed one should not disappear.)
rgerrans
Reply #35 Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:46 AM
Reply #35 Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:46 AM
I'm also having problems with Windowblind themes in vista. Mine is in the skinning of the StartMenu button. Sometimes it just grays out the button (still shows the overlay icon) and moves the quickstart toolbar to the far right on the screen (so it is covered by the overlay icon). Usually switching to another theme and then back again fixes the problem but the next time I suspend or even go into blank screensaver and return the problem is there again. I'm using the Chocolate theme but have noticed it with others as well.
lupetta
Reply #36 Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:20 AM
Reply #36 Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:20 AM
I have windows vista business, and I have installed ObjectDesktop. All OK. but when I open WindowBlind appair:
"This machine MUST be rebooted after installing this version of WB5.
If you are rebooted and still get this message, you may need to disable any registry protection/anti spyware apps you have and reinstall windowblinds as they may be incorrectly preventing the install". I have rebooted and reinstalled, but....
what???
excuse for my english!!!
bye laura
"This machine MUST be rebooted after installing this version of WB5.
If you are rebooted and still get this message, you may need to disable any registry protection/anti spyware apps you have and reinstall windowblinds as they may be incorrectly preventing the install". I have rebooted and reinstalled, but....
what???
excuse for my english!!!
bye laura
Bichur
Reply #37 Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:15 AM
Reply #37 Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:15 AM
need to disable any registry protection/anti spyware apps you have
AzTeqi
Reply #38 Monday, March 26, 2007 11:03 AM
Reply #38 Monday, March 26, 2007 11:03 AM
NON-TABBED DOCK & Sleeping Laptop/Desktop behavior: Wakes up; mouseover dock icons near cursor become visible and expand. The rest of the dock is empty until actual mouseover of each invisible icon - that makes them visible.
BIGGEST HEADACHE: does NOT stay ON-TOP (unreliable delay feature). Since I use multiple programs at once at FULL SCREEN, I have to click SHOW DESKTOP -or- {Win}{D} to access the Doc Bar; this should be the first BUG-FIX.
BEST "Hidden" FEATURE is the FLYOUT MENU - CUSTOM items!!! You can put whatever you want in the flyout, not just folders. I knew there had to be a way; took me hours to figure just what CUSTOM meant.
WEAKEST feature: default icon folder does NOT allow you to view icons in larger sizes. Packages of icons (purchased) like Apogee (love it) have many similar icons. I put the package folder in the default folder to readily access both sets. {Just found an untried IMPORT package feature moments ago}.
WORST feature - "Hidden Button" (in plain sight): selecting icons OUTSIDE the default folder uses an UNLIT BAR BUTTON that says BROWSE FOR AN IMAGE beneath a folder navigation tree. Only recognized this as a button after an accidental mouseover many days and hours after using the program trying to access other icons.
BEST HELP: before I bought the OBJECT DOCK PLUS package, I watched the video demonstration at https://www.stardock.com/products/objectdock/.
Scroll down to...
Features:
.
Click Here to check out some of the features of ObjectDock!
.
Clicking, you see a refreshing, relaxed "live" demo with narration of OBJECT DOCK PLUS. Takes about 22 minutes.
BIGGEST HEADACHE: does NOT stay ON-TOP (unreliable delay feature). Since I use multiple programs at once at FULL SCREEN, I have to click SHOW DESKTOP -or- {Win}{D} to access the Doc Bar; this should be the first BUG-FIX.
BEST "Hidden" FEATURE is the FLYOUT MENU - CUSTOM items!!! You can put whatever you want in the flyout, not just folders. I knew there had to be a way; took me hours to figure just what CUSTOM meant.
WEAKEST feature: default icon folder does NOT allow you to view icons in larger sizes. Packages of icons (purchased) like Apogee (love it) have many similar icons. I put the package folder in the default folder to readily access both sets. {Just found an untried IMPORT package feature moments ago}.
WORST feature - "Hidden Button" (in plain sight): selecting icons OUTSIDE the default folder uses an UNLIT BAR BUTTON that says BROWSE FOR AN IMAGE beneath a folder navigation tree. Only recognized this as a button after an accidental mouseover many days and hours after using the program trying to access other icons.
BEST HELP: before I bought the OBJECT DOCK PLUS package, I watched the video demonstration at https://www.stardock.com/products/objectdock/.
Scroll down to...
Features:
.
Click Here to check out some of the features of ObjectDock!
.
Clicking, you see a refreshing, relaxed "live" demo with narration of OBJECT DOCK PLUS. Takes about 22 minutes.
Erk.
Reply #39 Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:56 PM
Reply #39 Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:56 PM
errrm ....how did this become a bug report thread?
Guys ....please post your bugs to the correct forum, not THIS thread ...which is totally not related.
Guys ....please post your bugs to the correct forum, not THIS thread ...which is totally not related.
ama02
Reply #40 Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:21 PM
Reply #40 Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:21 PM
Request: Can the table (in the original post) be updated?
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Reply #21 Tuesday, February 6, 2007 7:51 AM