Trying to make logons with splash
Sunday, January 7, 2007 by MS. LADY | Discussion: Beginners
I like working with logonstudio, but I would like to know more about creating them. Are there any tutorials? I can only go so far and then can't do what I really want to. Most of the beautiful logons I see seem to be made without logonstudio, how?
Ms. Lady
Ms. Lady
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arcturus13
Reply #22 Sunday, January 7, 2007 9:46 PM
Reply #22 Sunday, January 7, 2007 9:46 PM
OK...it's sounding a little less like Russian or Swedish or whatever language is was you were talking in earlier.... 
Give me a minute, or 100....
And I would ALWAYS credit the master - besides, everyone knows your work, and I'd never get away fast enough!!
Give me a minute, or 100....
And I would ALWAYS credit the master - besides, everyone knows your work, and I'd never get away fast enough!!
Bichur
Reply #24 Sunday, January 7, 2007 10:01 PM
yep & nope
Reply #24 Sunday, January 7, 2007 10:01 PM
| besides, everyone knows your work, and I'd never get away fast enough!! |
yep & nope
arcturus13
Reply #25 Sunday, January 7, 2007 10:03 PM
Reply #25 Sunday, January 7, 2007 10:03 PM
Deleted bitmap_100 in the "Very Own" folder, replaced with a new wall...
but only got a plain light blue screen with your user sign-in graphics.
Still tryin'!
but only got a plain light blue screen with your user sign-in graphics.
Still tryin'!
Bichur
Reply #26 Sunday, January 7, 2007 10:04 PM
Okay, I'll give that way a shot after I figure out the Sphynx' tutorial
Reply #26 Sunday, January 7, 2007 10:04 PM
| Bichur, once you have the Logon installed, you can go to the Logon Studio folder, make a copy of "My Very Own Logon" if you want, make your image, and overwrite the bmp 128 with your image. No zipping, unzipping or anything. Then open LS and apply the Copy of the logon. |
Okay, I'll give that way a shot after I figure out the Sphynx' tutorial
arcturus13
Reply #27 Sunday, January 7, 2007 10:12 PM
Reply #27 Sunday, January 7, 2007 10:12 PM
OK...so I MIGHT be a dumb as I look...
You actually have to USE A BITMAP!!!
(thought I was using one, but they say the eyes are the first to go...they do say that don't they, it's not something else is it??!)
Second try worked perfectly. Thanks muchly Boss!! You must be so happy and proud of helping us noobs/newbs (whichever!) rip off your work!
Thanks again for your help!!
You actually have to USE A BITMAP!!!
(thought I was using one, but they say the eyes are the first to go...they do say that don't they, it's not something else is it??!)
Second try worked perfectly. Thanks muchly Boss!! You must be so happy and proud of helping us noobs/newbs (whichever!) rip off your work!
Thanks again for your help!!
boss0190
Reply #28 Sunday, January 7, 2007 10:28 PM
Reply #28 Sunday, January 7, 2007 10:28 PM
You don't havt to USE a bmp, but you need to SAVE as a bmp. And yeah, it's not just .bmp 100, it's bmp_100, so it's actually easier to open the wall...jpg, png, gif, whatever in Paint and save it as a 24 bit bmp overwriting bmp_100. That's the easiest way I've found, because Paint opens really fast unlike Photoshop. 
I DO enjoy helping people out. Sad to say, when I was trying to figure out how to make a splash and knew nothing about 32 bit and alpha channels and all that, nobody that knew and that I asked would tell me or reply to my email. Sphynx was the one that showed me how when I asked him, and then he posted the tutorial shortly afterwards.
It took me quite awhile playing around before I could make a halfway decent one, but at least I knew what I had to do.
I DO enjoy helping people out. Sad to say, when I was trying to figure out how to make a splash and knew nothing about 32 bit and alpha channels and all that, nobody that knew and that I asked would tell me or reply to my email. Sphynx was the one that showed me how when I asked him, and then he posted the tutorial shortly afterwards.
It took me quite awhile playing around before I could make a halfway decent one, but at least I knew what I had to do.
arcturus13
Reply #29 Sunday, January 7, 2007 11:06 PM
Reply #29 Sunday, January 7, 2007 11:06 PM
I have been using paint.net (a freebie program to get started) and used it to save the wall jpeg as a bitmap, and the rest worked great! Mostly I have messed around with creating icons from existing images, and have now started creating images (like my avatar) and starting to think of creating in layers. So this gives me something else to "mess" with!!
I have just in the last few days started entering the forums, even though I've "hung around" WC for months. It generally seems the experienced people are helpful (maybe even a little more so after Brad's year-end article/rant!). I must say I have checked out as much of your work as I could find (all amazing, V Box in use right now!), mostly here and Deviantart, and had already noticed the help and encouragement you have offered people. It seems like whenever there is a logon posted you are there to comment! Like I said earlier, I don't expect to be able to necessarily be able to create masterpieces, but I do enjoy figuring out how things are created and work. Hopefully I'll be asking more involved questions soon!
Again, thank you for the time and help - it is greatly appreciated!
Mark
I have just in the last few days started entering the forums, even though I've "hung around" WC for months. It generally seems the experienced people are helpful (maybe even a little more so after Brad's year-end article/rant!). I must say I have checked out as much of your work as I could find (all amazing, V Box in use right now!), mostly here and Deviantart, and had already noticed the help and encouragement you have offered people. It seems like whenever there is a logon posted you are there to comment! Like I said earlier, I don't expect to be able to necessarily be able to create masterpieces, but I do enjoy figuring out how things are created and work. Hopefully I'll be asking more involved questions soon!
Again, thank you for the time and help - it is greatly appreciated!
Mark
MS. LADY
Reply #30 Sunday, January 7, 2007 11:18 PM
Reply #30 Sunday, January 7, 2007 11:18 PM
O.K.
My turn. I don't have PS. I have PhotoPlus 6.0, Paint.Net, and MGI PhotoSuite 4. I had Jasc PhotoShop, but a virus wiped that out before I got a change to even open it. When I brought my new all-in-one from Dell, I got the software disc, but it didn't work. I don't know if any of these will work with logons, but I will give them a try.
My turn. I don't have PS. I have PhotoPlus 6.0, Paint.Net, and MGI PhotoSuite 4. I had Jasc PhotoShop, but a virus wiped that out before I got a change to even open it. When I brought my new all-in-one from Dell, I got the software disc, but it didn't work. I don't know if any of these will work with logons, but I will give them a try.
boss0190
Reply #31 Sunday, January 7, 2007 11:35 PM
Reply #31 Sunday, January 7, 2007 11:35 PM
Thanks very much for the nice words Mark. That's how I started, I made a few logons and then got obsessed with figuring out how to make the "splash" logons, which also led me into having to learn how the code works in the uifile. I'm no coder, programmer, graphics person, it was just something new and fun to try for an old fart like me.
There are a lot of skinners that have created awesome logons in the past...the thing is, they moved on to creating awesome Windowblinds. Tiggz, Adni, Apocalypse and more I'm sure I'm forgetting. I just don't have the patience to learn and then spend the amazing amount of time it takes to do a WB skin, so I stick with logons and wallpapers and the occasional Rainy.
MS LADY, I doubt any of those programs will help with splash logons, but there's nothing wrong with a really good Logon Studio logon at all.
There are a lot of skinners that have created awesome logons in the past...the thing is, they moved on to creating awesome Windowblinds.
Tiggz, Adni, Apocalypse and more I'm sure I'm forgetting. I just don't have the patience to learn and then spend the amazing amount of time it takes to do a WB skin, so I stick with logons and wallpapers and the occasional Rainy. MS LADY, I doubt any of those programs will help with splash logons, but there's nothing wrong with a really good Logon Studio logon at all.
MS. LADY
Reply #32 Sunday, January 7, 2007 11:42 PM
Reply #32 Sunday, January 7, 2007 11:42 PM
I will get PhotoShop and get back with you. Can't buy it, but got lots of friends.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #34 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 1:49 AM
Reply #34 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 1:49 AM
Hiya boss...I'm working on my first logon...got most of it figured...My main prob at the moment is aligning the splash.From the right center to the left center.
Can you help a brother out?
Can you help a brother out?
boss0190
Reply #35 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 12:04 PM
Reply #35 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 12:04 PM
Hey I.R.
The splash can be set easily left, center, and right, and top, middle, and bottom. To offset it from center, which it sounds like what you want, you need to create the splash to the left or right of center on your template. Then you need to go into the uifile and move the userpanes right or left to where you need them. The shutdown button will follow the userpanes.
A quick example, lines 517 and 518 in a default splash uifile:
element sheet=styleref(toppanelss) id=atom(toppanel) width=139rp layoutpos=left/
element sheet=styleref(toppanelss) id=atom(toppanel) width=139rp layoutpos=right/
The widths are set equal at 139. If you set the left width to say 79, and the right to 199, it will move the userpane 60 px to the left.
There is a lot of trial and error making the splash offset and then getting everything else to where you want it, but that should give you a basic idea.
You can always email me with questions or send the logon so I can help you out. That should give you a bit of an idea though.
The splash can be set easily left, center, and right, and top, middle, and bottom. To offset it from center, which it sounds like what you want, you need to create the splash to the left or right of center on your template. Then you need to go into the uifile and move the userpanes right or left to where you need them. The shutdown button will follow the userpanes.
A quick example, lines 517 and 518 in a default splash uifile:
element sheet=styleref(toppanelss) id=atom(toppanel) width=139rp layoutpos=left/
element sheet=styleref(toppanelss) id=atom(toppanel) width=139rp layoutpos=right/
The widths are set equal at 139. If you set the left width to say 79, and the right to 199, it will move the userpane 60 px to the left.
There is a lot of trial and error making the splash offset and then getting everything else to where you want it, but that should give you a basic idea.
You can always email me with questions or send the logon so I can help you out. That should give you a bit of an idea though.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #36 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 10:14 PM
Reply #36 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 10:14 PM
Thanks Boss...yeah I got the trial and error thing happening I have been at it for hours!I cant get the user panes to budge.
let me try some of your fixes and I'll be back.(you may be getting some email soon )
I have been at it for hours!I cant get the user panes to budge.let me try some of your fixes and I'll be back.(you may be getting some email soon
)
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #37 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 10:32 PM
Reply #37 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 10:32 PM
I dont want the splash offset from center,I want it on the left side of the screen.It went left once,then as soon as the user pic shows it moves back toward center. 
boss0190
Reply #38 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 10:40 PM
Reply #38 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 10:40 PM
Ok, I understand now.
Line 514, or thereabouts depending on the ui:
element id=atom(contentcontainer) layout=verticalflowlayout(0,2,2,2) layoutpos=client
Change it to this:
element id=atom(contentcontainer) layout=verticalflowlayout(0,0,2,2) layoutpos=client
The whole splash will move to the left of the screen.
Line 514, or thereabouts depending on the ui:
element id=atom(contentcontainer) layout=verticalflowlayout(0,2,2,2) layoutpos=client
Change it to this:
element id=atom(contentcontainer) layout=verticalflowlayout(0,0,2,2) layoutpos=client
The whole splash will move to the left of the screen.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #39 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 11:01 PM
Reply #39 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 11:01 PM
That tip about the user pane worked great!I looked all over the internet and not one reference to that trick.
Am applying the next trick.
Am applying the next trick.
boss0190
Reply #40 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 11:15 PM No tricks, just tons of time changing numbers, seeing what happens....and whether something moves or the logon locks up....
Reply #40 Tuesday, January 9, 2007 11:15 PM
No tricks, just tons of time changing numbers, seeing what happens....and whether something moves or the logon locks up.... Please login to comment and/or vote for this skin.
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Reply #21 Sunday, January 7, 2007 9:16 PM