GUI Olympics: Week 3 Results

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 by Frogboy | Discussion: GUI Championships News

Week 3 results!

After lengthy and careful consideration, here are the results for week 3 of the GUI Olympics.

Event: WindowBlinds - Most creative visual style

Rank Author Skin
MikeB314 Airlock
essorant Pixel 8
^^Gabriel G-Pod
treetog Antares
danilloOC Sektor

Event: IconPackager - Best themed (icons that fit a specific theme) icon package

Rank Author Skin
treetog Thunder Storm (Icons)
volter15 Smile 3 ))
farid nafar HFN Sapphire

Event: WinAmp Pro - Most usable Winamp skin

Rank Author Skin
Andrew Mackowski EMP 2
Anemovatis AR7
kriptoner D-Reliction

Event: WindowBlinds - Best themed visual style (a visual style that fits a specific theme)

Rank Author Skin
treetog Thunder Storm WB
- vf - Alloy Bezel 4
Scarebear 10pin
EventHorizon Mime

Event: IconPackager - Best Pseudo-OS icon package (an icon package that you could see coming with an operating system)

Rank Author Skin
Miloszwl d3A
Leothar Amdio
Rokey The Last Order

Event: WinAmp Pro - Best power user Winamp skin

Rank Author Skin
Andrew Mackowski EMP 2
a-t-o-m-i-c Impulse
Muniom Designs Resurgence

 

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Plague_
Reply #121 Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:29 AM
What alot of people don't realise is that the coding isn't just the glue that puts the graphics together in Winamp skins. Much of the code adds to the visual appearance of the skin aswell. And it's even possible to build a skin ENTIRELY in code, with no graphics at all! So how can you say this Brother Rabbit: "the opinion of a stupid programmer, computer technican or whatever you bunch of tools do for a living, should NOT be allowed to critic or comment on a visual artform like this. What the hell do you know?" You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. It's really not fun beeing a skin coder theese days. You call us immature? What the hell are you then, going off like that!? Most Winamp skins are a 50-50 collab between a coder and a graphics artist.

Z71
Reply #122 Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:42 AM
I need a coder for my windowblind. Any takers? Congrats to all!

danioc
Reply #123 Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:05 AM
Yeh, i would love start to build Winamp skins but i need a coder too Congrats to the winners.

MonsterTruck
Reply #124 Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:06 AM
First of all, I'm not in any way affiliated or associated with Winamp/GUIOlympics and my comments are on my own. BUT, I just had to react to some of the outright abusive and insulting comments posted against Winamp skinners (and ESPECIALLY coders). Now, what the h*ll do you know (I'm not going to mention names, you know who you are, besides, just read the comments) about coding to be talking like that? Skinning Winamp is not like 1-2-3, clap your hands and there you go, new skin! It takes A LOT of effort to make it work as bug-free as possible on someone's PC. Now, maybe some of you don't have the guts to say it, but I'm not afraid of anyone/anything and I'm going to say it anyhow: How the h*ll can a Winamp skin WIN 2 SEPERATE categories and grab GOLD AT BOTH of these categories? (No offense at the author, this is purely directed against the judges of Winamp skins). But that's not all, no, the judges SIMPLY LEAVE OUT (in my humble opinion of course, but backed by thousands of winamp users) what may POSSIBLY BE THE BEST WINAMP SKIN OF ALL TIME, CALLED WOOHOO-FER. Now THAT is what I want an explanation for. WOOHOO-FER DIDN'T EVEN PLACE THIRD ON ANY LIST, I REPEAT AGAIN, ON ANY LIST!!! How in the name of sweet Jesus did that happen? I mean, did we miss something here? Now, I would like some clear and concise answers FROM THE JUDGES, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER MESSENGER (no offense). What were the criterias that were used to judge the Winamp skins, and in particular the Power User category. Things like: does it have bugs, visual appeal (animated speakers anyone?) and other criterias which I'm sure they've taken into account. To put it suimply: we want an explanation why a skin deserve's 2 gold medals on 2 different categories and why WooHoo-Fer was left out. It's a very simple question. Next time an event like this organized (if ever again), PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE, and with that I mean: Winamp skinners AND CODERS should get mentioned in the medals list. I hope I have been clear in what I (and I'm sure many others) would like to see and hear.

CarlosP
Reply #125 Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:20 AM
I think we talked enough. Every thing was said and it is impossible to find any solutions for the problems here. As i know this is the first time GUIO supported winamp skins and acctualy it was ok for the first time. Since WB and icons are 100% different way of skinning some people dun know what it means to make a winamp skin. The winamp skins arent like WB or icons, they are like a programm in the programm. Each skin was made like an new app. So i hope you stop arguing now, to all the winamp skinners:" this was their first time they tryed to judge winamp skins and you all know winamp skins are a sience and for that reason let the people learn this sience and hopefully next time the olympic will be much better and i geuss they learnd alot from this time." The real olympic games needed more than 2000 years until they was as good as they are today. So in 1996 years this olympics will also be very good

volter15
Reply #126 Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:00 AM
I for the first time accept participation in this competition.. I do not want to participate in these disputes. I only wanted to tell MANY THANKS: 1 - to my teachers - Mormegil and Treetog, 2 - to judges which have estimated my work, 3 - to ALL PEOPLE written good words in comments for ALL authors, and to ALL GOOD PEOPLE!!! Let's SMILE!

volter15
Reply #127 Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:01 AM
Questions to the Frogboy: 1 - When the following competitions will begin? 2 - What the skins will participate?

Qmix
Reply #128 Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:25 AM
Kudos! for recognizing danilloOC's Sektor. This was one a the skins that motivated me to shell out $$ for OD (the other was DuoPixels Ying-Yang)

Muniom Designs
Reply #129 Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:51 AM
ok skin back in the contest now pls.......... never asked for it to be removed in the first place only a figure of speech.....

Frogboy
Reply #130 Thursday, May 27, 2004 12:04 PM
Muniom: It's back in.

grayhaze
Reply #131 Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:35 PM
Well done to all the winners! Just a few thoughts for those whinging WinAmp folk. Do you need to know how to play a piano to appreciate good piano music? Do you need to have a degree in engineering to know a well-constructed building? Do you need to be a gourmet chef to have an opinion on the quality of food? The technical skills of the individual judges are irrelevant. This contest is about opinions, and nothing more. You can spend 100 days making a terrible skin, but does that entitle you to recognition over the person who spent 1 day making a superb skin? Also, don't criticize the work skinners of other applications do until you have the maturity to know that your own particular artform isn't the only difficult or time-consuming one in existence. Thanks for listening folks, and who knows, maybe if they hold this contest again we can just have one category with one massive prize: Best Skin.

jhon tikis
Reply #132 Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:49 PM
A good hope for less complaints will be to have all the creators voting for the skins except for those created by their teams...on a second thought ...maybe a bad idea. VaG-ela, poly xyma tous ta eipes, hehe alla me ta dikia sou...mallon.

[email protected]
Reply #133 Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:00 PM
I'm not keen on diving into this 130 messages in, but as someone who voted for EMP2 for first place in Most Usable, I'm pleased to have voted for it. I felt EMP2 brought everything together with a cohesive presentation, a consistent sense of style, clear access to sub-features (though the use of the "menu" items in the main UI and RMB menu), and consistent usability/accessibility/readability under different color schemes. It very much gave me a sense of being at home with using it (even in its different modes) as opposed to some skins where I felt I had to "fight" the UI. Since I'm doing this, one other quick comment on d3A vs The Last Order. While I think The Last Order is top notch and I liked its use of color a bit more overall, when the time came for judging I felt d3A edged it in being more appropriate for an OS in terms of style. Everything with The Last Order was on edge and while better "pictures" perhaps than d3A, I think d3A had the edge in terms of being part of a pseudo-OS desktop. fwiw Kris

Ausvet
Reply #134 Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:30 PM
Agreed EMP2 is most usable by everyone, it is so intuitive for anyone that has used a mp3 type hardware device and to users of a computer menu. No weird overly obtrusive shapes to get in the way of its prime function of a player. Then it has lots of power user goodies as well - so out of only 8 entries in this section it is a worthy winner. It will remain my default winamp skin for a long long time - a perfect blend of full featured functionality and visual appeal. To rhe whingers learn from this skin in these 2 categories - did it occur to you maybe you should have entered in another category?

StillWater Skins
Reply #135 Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:51 PM
There's one thing I must ask though: how did a classic skin wind up in the top 5 of "best power user", yet none into "most usable"? That's just plain weird.

rpeterclark
Reply #136 Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:56 PM
Ausvet (or any other judges as well), which "power-user features" of EMP did you like? It'll be interesting to know which specifically appealed to you.

20CECIL
Reply #137 Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:47 PM
After I'd read all the comments, I can't see no winamp coders or skinners crying anywhere, but what I see is constructive complaining over some very poor judgement and in that I can totally agree! Let take fx. what Frogboy wrote monday, May 24, in headline for "Best Power-User Winamp skin" Which Winamp skin do you think, as a user, you would want to use as a power user? The Winamp skin that is totally full of really cool features that makes using it a real joy. He don't use Winamp!!! I know he's just a messenger, but that's just the same as having a farmer to tell you to drive Toyota (because he had one a few years ago)! It's very cool to drive and it's full of cool features that makes using it a real joy!!!! I also think that it's poor judgement to take Winamp of the competition because of these small problems. Winamp should have been seperated in classic/modern from the begining and the rules of voting and what counts in the judgement should have been specified, so NO ONE was in doubt! By your side Plague, Beesley, rpeterclark, Rontz, CarlosP, VAG-METASKINS, QuadHeliX and some more... And last! I think TruckMaster deserve an answer from you Frogboy!

Frogboy
Reply #138 Thursday, May 27, 2004 5:08 PM
I'll say it again, if any Winamp skinner wants to remove their skins from the competition, be my guest. The judges decisions are final. We've had TWO judges already respond on this. And while I am not a current Winamp user, I am familiar with it and quite familiar with Wasabi and the underlying technology involved and hence am fully aware of its capabilities. Similarly, I don't use MacOS X as my main OS but I am quite familiar with its capabilities and what they mean.

VAG - METASKINS
Reply #139 Thursday, May 27, 2004 5:45 PM
Frogboy I'm back Sorry to bother you my dear "messenger" and administrator afterall, but I think you or any other responsible owns an explanation to me. Why my 3 Skins (H2O liquid, WooHoo-FER and GrayZ) are removed? Did I asked from you or anyone else to remove them? And if they are removed from my posts in here just say it that this section is not democratic or you can't handle some facts and points from users that YOU invited to participate in YOUR competition. Thanks in advance. VAG

VAG - METASKINS
Reply #140 Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:08 PM
PS: i explain to you at the forums why is the reason I want them back, please read it. thanks.

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