GUI Olympics: Week 3 Results

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 by Frogboy | Discussion: GUI Championships News

Week 3 results!

After lengthy and careful consideration, here are the results for week 3 of the GUI Olympics.

Event: WindowBlinds - Most creative visual style

Rank Author Skin
MikeB314 Airlock
essorant Pixel 8
^^Gabriel G-Pod
treetog Antares
danilloOC Sektor

Event: IconPackager - Best themed (icons that fit a specific theme) icon package

Rank Author Skin
treetog Thunder Storm (Icons)
volter15 Smile 3 ))
farid nafar HFN Sapphire

Event: WinAmp Pro - Most usable Winamp skin

Rank Author Skin
Andrew Mackowski EMP 2
Anemovatis AR7
kriptoner D-Reliction

Event: WindowBlinds - Best themed visual style (a visual style that fits a specific theme)

Rank Author Skin
treetog Thunder Storm WB
- vf - Alloy Bezel 4
Scarebear 10pin
EventHorizon Mime

Event: IconPackager - Best Pseudo-OS icon package (an icon package that you could see coming with an operating system)

Rank Author Skin
Miloszwl d3A
Leothar Amdio
Rokey The Last Order

Event: WinAmp Pro - Best power user Winamp skin

Rank Author Skin
Andrew Mackowski EMP 2
a-t-o-m-i-c Impulse
Muniom Designs Resurgence

 

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VAG - METASKINS
Reply #61 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:26 PM
No cause till then (in 2 years from now I believe) maybe will be no Winamp out there...... no one knows, but don't expect to have teams that put effort to make any Interface design on independent application as (Winamp, Sonique, WMP etc.) and to waste their time again to participate on such events...... And a small advise, next time setup the website to be able to handle this event, put it on a fast (at least for the Europeans) server, make a reliable custom configurable easy database, and think about the team options and skins update policy before put it online in public Enough said I think ...... Again congrats to all, and as I said before, we all have different tastes and we have facts to support them, except the judges or the GUIO policy setup that still don't tell us why each skin was ranked there compared with the rest on each category they was in this competition. GoodNight from Greece.
John Hamp
Reply #62 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:31 PM
Two words: Sour grapes.
Muniom Designs
Reply #63 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:47 PM
not only i have decided against ever entering another GUIO, but i feel inclined to pull my skin out of the competition as a sign of protest, not simply because of my own ass raping but also for the ass raping of skins such as D-Reliction. EMP 2 won both catagories, hahaha what a joke! (tis a good skin, but not worthy of a double win thats for sure) was astounded that some skins would even bother entering such a 'high-standard' competition, for some of those skins to go on and win is, well utter crap.
President Evil
Reply #64 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:57 PM
this competition is a joke, judging a winamp skin is not like judging a windowblinds skin. It doesnt have to be an ugly square thying like that EMP2. Really lame results, but what would you expect from a competition where you win a winamp pro registration?
Frogboy
Reply #65 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:01 PM
Official judges from the Winamp events: On Winamp skins: 1) Steve from Nullsoft 2) Jonathan from Nullsoft 3) Jark from deviantART 4) Voodoo from Neowin 5) Kris from Stardock Just going off the screenshots, they all look good to me. Some of you seem to be thinking that the events were supposed to be about the best overall winamp skin or something. They weren't. They were about the most usable and best power user skin and each judge used their best determination to come up with which ones they thought were the best in those categories.
Plague_
Reply #66 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:31 PM
seeing the list of official Winamp event judges, I can tell you, none of them were involved in the creation of the skin-engine (Wasabi). Francis made Maki and parts of Wasabi, Brennan made most of Wasabi and Aus was involved aswell, however, Brennan and Aus don't work for Nullsoft anymore.. They are the three main people behind Wasabi and none of them are judges in theese events. Steve is a designer, he made the graphics for the Classic base skin and the Winamp3 base skin for example and I'm not really sure what role Jonathan has. You said I should start my own contest huh? Well, I'm sorry if my comments sound too harsh and judgmental, but lately, you (the entire GuiOS) have made yourself very hard to like. I would definitely consider entering again, BUT if I am gonna do that, some changes really need to happen, you need to start listening to the peoples suggestions and do something about the complaints. Most of the people complaining in here are veteran Winamp skinners. That should tell you something is wrong. I _want_ to like the GuiOS, but I can't atm and it seems I'm really not alone. The solution to this is NOT skipping Winamp next year, it's listening to the contestants and make some adjustments based on their suggestions, not just diss them.
Frogboy
Reply #67 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:42 PM
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I can only speak for myself but I don't see very much constructive criticism or recommended changes. From this non-judge vantage point (i.e. speaking for myself), it just looks like some people didn't like the results of one of the Winamp events and are complaining.
Frogboy
Reply #68 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:46 PM
BTW, Plague, you csaid you would consider entering in a future GUIO. Did you enter in any skins into THIS contest?
Plague_
Reply #69 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:49 PM
I coded D-Reliction
Plague_
Reply #70 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:54 PM
you want some constructive criticism? You can start by recognizing the coders of the skins! Make it possible to be TWO authors of the same skin, without beeing just members in a team! So we've won like a t-shirt and a wa pro license now eh? But only one of each? How are we supposed to divide that in two equal piles? Coders get screwed over all the time, it's not fun anymore..
kriptoner
Reply #71 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:55 PM
"I coded D-Reliction" ..And you did a wonderful job, bro.
Plague_
Reply #72 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:56 PM
kriptoner
Reply #73 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:58 PM
Get your hand off my thigh, will you.
Gecho
Reply #74 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:06 PM
ROFL D-Reliction i say good job for makin such skin..but in my opinion Judges did the right thing..but it doesnt really matter what i say coz people are just so stuborn and wont quit till they get tehir medal so jez give the poor guy the medal he needs it really bad
VAG - METASKINS
Reply #75 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:12 PM
"From this non-judge vantage point (i.e. speaking for myself), it just looks like some people didn't like the results of one of the Winamp events and are complaining." No Frogboy, seems that many people agree with us, only your 5 judges had different opinions A constructive question, to the finished WA categories the skins participated now can be submitted on other websites? or this is also against the rules now they are "judged" ? Let's stop all bitching, we are alot and only Frogboy answers, it's unfair, this guy has to get some rest too....... (who is next?) As about Plague's notice, this is one of those things websites/companies/users don't understand, I'm an artist, but ALL my skins if was not coded from great coders would be only (dead)graphics, sometime world must see that a skin belongs 50-50 to artist/coder and not only to artist with gfx and ideas of a concept...... NOW GOODNIGHT from Greece..........
EventHorizon
Reply #76 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:17 PM
Just to add my $0.02... I think the judges did their job well concerning the WA skins... D-Relicon got 3rd place in the 'Most usable' catefgory...And thats what it deserves. Ive used all three of the skins that won in that category, and while D-Relicon is definately very 'usable'...EMP2 and AR7 top it by a small, but visible, margin. Dont get me wrong, it is a truly *awesome* skin...but its just not as usable as some of the others.
Plague_
Reply #77 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:25 PM
how is it not as usable as the others? I really wanna know, because I have no idea what you're talking about, no offense..
Frogboy
Reply #78 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:26 PM
I think another thing that needs to be remembered: The EVENT determines the winner. The two Winamp events were most usable and best power user skin. For their own reasons, the judges made their decisions based on those two events. They werent' judging the "best overall" skin (though I am glad I'm not a judge, holy cow that's shaping up to be scary). I have no opinion at all on Winamp skins. I haven't run any of them. But I am really getting the feeling that some people are ignoring that the events were about the most usable on a day to day basis and the best power user skin. Don't judge the entire contest until it's over.
VAG - METASKINS
Reply #79 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:40 PM
Can the judges explain to us at least how a skin can be "Most Usable" and same time "Best Power-User" ???? (And I'm talking about the winner on both 2 events you said Frogboy) And no, we don't judge the contest as about WB and Icons where seems to be ok by me, (I don't use WB or IconPackager at all)........ Judges if where so experienced, should recognise what skins took alot of time and effort to be done and don't judge only with what skin fits in their desktops better or to their girlfriends Cause seems like this way of judgement to me in some cases..... Anyway to chil up a bit ,I want a favor (don't answer for the next 15 mins to let me sleep, after this time do whatever you want ) LaterZzz
StillWater Skins
Reply #80 Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:42 PM
Plague, I don't see why you didn't like the fact that the skinners had to choose the categories so much, although I can see some good sides of what you're proposing (that each skin enters every category). However, consider this: there are over 100 WB skins. You can imagine how much time the judges hace already had to put into judging, and you can see it by how late the results have been. If the judges had to go through 100+ skins with a fine-tooth comb for every single category, that would just be plain ridiculous. (And I'd say that the larger the pool of skins per category, the larger the odds that 'medal deserving' skins will get 'overlooked'.) Ultimately, you made the skin, so you know what its strengths and weaknesses are. If you aren't able to the two most appropriate categories for the skin, then surely something's wrong.

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