Booting failure on laptop...
Calling all yrags...
Friday, April 22, 2005 by EventHorizon | Discussion: Personal Computing
Ok...
I have an old-ish Dell Inspiron 2500...my little brother was playing 'runescape' and it froze then gave a BSOD... Now, I cannot boot into windows anymore.
What will happen is this:
Turn on computer> Shows 'dell' setup screen> Gives a black screen saying 'operating system not found.'
If I leave the computer unplugged for a period of time (10 mins or so) It will show the XP bootscreen for 5-10 seconds, then Ill get a BSOD saying 'Unmountable drive volume.'
STOP: 0x000000ED (0x837D3A88, 0xC00000006, 0x00000000, 0x000000000)
Ill hit the power button, then turn it back on, and it says 'operating system not found' again. Ive tried to enter safe mode when I see the XP screen, but after I select 'Boot in safe mode' it loads for a little while, then BSODs again with the 'unmountable drive volume.'
Im worried that the HDD may have bitten the dust...Is there any way for me to get data off of the disk?
Or maybe its not broken...
Can anyone help?
I have an old-ish Dell Inspiron 2500...my little brother was playing 'runescape' and it froze then gave a BSOD... Now, I cannot boot into windows anymore.
What will happen is this:
Turn on computer> Shows 'dell' setup screen> Gives a black screen saying 'operating system not found.'
If I leave the computer unplugged for a period of time (10 mins or so) It will show the XP bootscreen for 5-10 seconds, then Ill get a BSOD saying 'Unmountable drive volume.'
STOP: 0x000000ED (0x837D3A88, 0xC00000006, 0x00000000, 0x000000000)
Ill hit the power button, then turn it back on, and it says 'operating system not found' again. Ive tried to enter safe mode when I see the XP screen, but after I select 'Boot in safe mode' it loads for a little while, then BSODs again with the 'unmountable drive volume.'
Im worried that the HDD may have bitten the dust...Is there any way for me to get data off of the disk?
Or maybe its not broken...
Can anyone help?
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CerebroJD
Reply #3 Saturday, April 23, 2005 6:08 PM
Reply #3 Saturday, April 23, 2005 6:08 PM
EH, just found this on google: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q297185
Double Zero
Reply #4 Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:38 PM
Reply #4 Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:38 PM
Hey there EH, doesnt look like Yrag's around, or just hasnt gotten to this thread yet..
Until he does heres an idea..
This is a free Utility CD called *Ultimate Boot CD* http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
It has a TON of utilities on it that will help you troubleshoot your HD and OS..
Hopefully something on it will work for you.
Zero.
Until he does heres an idea..
This is a free Utility CD called *Ultimate Boot CD* http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
It has a TON of utilities on it that will help you troubleshoot your HD and OS..
Hopefully something on it will work for you.
Zero.
yrag
Reply #6 Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:06 PM
Reply #6 Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:06 PM
I doubt that Dell OEM CD has the 'Repair' option. If it does have it, go into the Repair Console and type "chkdsk /f" (no quotes).
Failing that, take the drive out and plug into another XP computer via one of the CD connections to run with that computer's hard drive. When you power up the computer it will boot up and run Chkdsk before it logs into Windows, let this run & complete and if it's going to work, it will. If it does, return the drive back to the Dell. If not, you and it are done. If it does come up, but you think the hard drive is, in fact, failing, then you can attempt to copy the files you want to the good drive in the system you have it connected to using Windows or Dos commands (98 or Me Boot disk will work) and get a new drive for the Dell.
Failing that, take the drive out and plug into another XP computer via one of the CD connections to run with that computer's hard drive. When you power up the computer it will boot up and run Chkdsk before it logs into Windows, let this run & complete and if it's going to work, it will. If it does, return the drive back to the Dell. If not, you and it are done. If it does come up, but you think the hard drive is, in fact, failing, then you can attempt to copy the files you want to the good drive in the system you have it connected to using Windows or Dos commands (98 or Me Boot disk will work) and get a new drive for the Dell.
EventHorizon
Reply #7 Thursday, May 5, 2005 6:20 PM
Reply #7 Thursday, May 5, 2005 6:20 PM
Hey yrag, didnt see your post until now... 
First off, what is the 'recovery console' I see mentioned in cerebro's post?
(If this is the case, restart the computer to the Recovery Console, and then use the chkdsk /r command to repair the volume.)
That sounds handy, but how can I access it? I dont have an OEM cd (this comp was bought off of ebay about 2 years ago). Would it be possible to get to this function: a.) without any cds? b.) with a new XP cd? c.) any other way?
Im not sure I quite understand this...^ Plug what into another XP computer?
First off, what is the 'recovery console' I see mentioned in cerebro's post?
(If this is the case, restart the computer to the Recovery Console, and then use the chkdsk /r command to repair the volume.)
That sounds handy, but how can I access it? I dont have an OEM cd (this comp was bought off of ebay about 2 years ago). Would it be possible to get to this function: a.) without any cds? b.) with a new XP cd? c.) any other way?
| Failing that, take the drive out and plug into another XP computer via one of the CD connections to run with that computer's hard drive. |
Im not sure I quite understand this...^ Plug what into another XP computer?
yrag
Reply #8 Thursday, May 5, 2005 10:10 PM
Reply #8 Thursday, May 5, 2005 10:10 PM
Grasshopper...I think school is puttin' a hurtin' on your gray matter 
OK..you answered that, so let's move on to step 2
..hummm...interesting way you put that...OK..OK.......I won't go there.......
Note the word 'Drive'....you need to take the hard drive out of the Laptop...then follow the instructions in #6. You can, if you have a hard drive ribbon cable and molex power plug long enough, simply unplug laptop hard drive from that board and power pack and plug into the good XP computer board and power source. The good computer doesn't know, nor care, where the drive is. In either case, see if the good XP computer fixes your drive...or at the very least it might let you tranfer some files to the good drive. Failing to do either means the drive is cooked
Carry on...
| I doubt that Dell OEM CD has the 'Repair' option |
OK..you answered that, so let's move on to step 2
| Plug what into another XP computer? |
..hummm...interesting way you put that...OK..OK.......I won't go there.......
| take the drive out and plug into another good XP computer |
Note the word 'Drive'....you need to take the hard drive out of the Laptop...then follow the instructions in #6. You can, if you have a hard drive ribbon cable and molex power plug long enough, simply unplug laptop hard drive from that board and power pack and plug into the good XP computer board and power source. The good computer doesn't know, nor care, where the drive is. In either case, see if the good XP computer fixes your drive...or at the very least it might let you tranfer some files to the good drive. Failing to do either means the drive is cooked
Carry on...
EventHorizon
Reply #9 Friday, May 6, 2005 1:21 PM
Reply #9 Friday, May 6, 2005 1:21 PM
What confused me was the lack of the word 'it' in the sentance 'take the drive out and plug into another good XP computer.' If you had said plug 'it' into another XP computer, I would have gotten it the 1st time. 
Ok, well hrm...The HDD in the laptop is a IBM 'Travelstar' and doesnt have the regular connectors like your typical HDD in a desktop...As a result, I cannot find any cables that connect to the back of it...
Here it is...(I think) http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/travel/tr15gn.htm ...Matched the Modelnumber...The IBM hdd business is now owned by hitachi...
Heres a pic of the drive itself...
Ok, well hrm...The HDD in the laptop is a IBM 'Travelstar' and doesnt have the regular connectors like your typical HDD in a desktop...As a result, I cannot find any cables that connect to the back of it...
Here it is...(I think) http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/travel/tr15gn.htm ...Matched the Modelnumber...The IBM hdd business is now owned by hitachi...
Heres a pic of the drive itself...
iTZKooPA
Reply #11 Friday, May 6, 2005 1:48 PM
Reply #11 Friday, May 6, 2005 1:48 PM
I would agree that Knoppix would be a pretty good way to go if you just wanna grab your files and then format
PurrBall
Reply #12 Friday, May 6, 2005 2:39 PM
Reply #12 Friday, May 6, 2005 2:39 PM
I see you have IBM drive. I had IBM drive and it gave me that same notice on bootup once, and the boot screen sometimes would flash. Try going into Win XP setup, it will tell you there's no drive in the comp. Your drive is dead and all of your files are also.
Double Zero
Reply #13 Friday, May 6, 2005 2:59 PM
::laughs:: You know..I wondered if you would run into that exact problem as I read the instructions.. the BUS connectors and Pwr connectors have just GOT to be different from each other..I mean we are talking "Laptop/Desktop" right? perhaps you have another laptop computer?
Good Luck!,
Zero.
Reply #13 Friday, May 6, 2005 2:59 PM
| Ok, well hrm...The HDD in the laptop is a IBM 'Travelstar' and doesnt have the regular connectors like your typical HDD in a desktop...As a result, I cannot find any cables that connect to the back of it... |
::laughs:: You know..I wondered if you would run into that exact problem as I read the instructions.. the BUS connectors and Pwr connectors have just GOT to be different from each other..I mean we are talking "Laptop/Desktop" right? perhaps you have another laptop computer?
Good Luck!,
Zero.
EventHorizon
Reply #14 Friday, May 6, 2005 3:29 PM
Reply #14 Friday, May 6, 2005 3:29 PM
The laptop doesnt have a CD-burner (plain old 24x CD-rom)...Or a floppy drive.
With knoppix, could I hook up to the LAN here and transfer the files that way?
With knoppix, could I hook up to the LAN here and transfer the files that way?
yrag
Reply #15 Friday, May 6, 2005 4:10 PM
...youngsters....yikes...
You need the adapter for the plug (cost about a buck). Having said that and seeing that it's an IBM drive (arguably the worst in the world), I wouldn't waste another minute on it. If the Lap (in your opinion) is worth salvaging, then get a new hard drive. Short of that, use the whole thing for a paper weight.....
Reply #15 Friday, May 6, 2005 4:10 PM
| If you had said plug 'it' into another XP computer, I would have gotten it the 1st time. |
...youngsters....yikes...
You need the adapter for the plug (cost about a buck). Having said that and seeing that it's an IBM drive (arguably the worst in the world), I wouldn't waste another minute on it. If the Lap (in your opinion) is worth salvaging, then get a new hard drive. Short of that, use the whole thing for a paper weight.....
EventHorizon
Reply #16 Friday, May 6, 2005 4:41 PM
Sheesh, quit twistin' my words around.
Well, It'd be nice to get the whole thing running (not crucial though), but there are some files on the drive (Pictures, music etc.) that need to be extracted.
Oh, so an adapter for 'it.' Hmm, what kind of adapter are we lookin' for here...Does it have a specific name?
Reply #16 Friday, May 6, 2005 4:41 PM
| ...youngsters....yikes... |
Sheesh, quit twistin' my words around.
Well, It'd be nice to get the whole thing running (not crucial though), but there are some files on the drive (Pictures, music etc.) that need to be extracted.
Oh, so an adapter for 'it.' Hmm, what kind of adapter are we lookin' for here...Does it have a specific name?
yrag
Reply #17 Friday, May 6, 2005 5:37 PM
Reply #17 Friday, May 6, 2005 5:37 PM
You're looking for a Laptop Hard Drive Adapter to Desktop Adapter (2.5" to 3.5")(40/80). If there's a "Mom & Pop" computer shop around, they'll probably loan you one to get the files off or for that matter, do it for you. Frankly, I don't think you're going to get anything off the drive, but....
EventHorizon
Reply #18 Friday, May 6, 2005 11:43 PM
Ah, I wouldnt be so sure... If it's showing the XP boot screen and still has enough of XP left to give me a friggin' BSOD...I think there's a good chance the drive is not (totally) corrupted.
Allrighty, thanks for the help...Ill see what I can salvage...
Reply #18 Friday, May 6, 2005 11:43 PM
| Frankly, I don't think you're going to get anything off the drive, but.... |
Ah, I wouldnt be so sure... If it's showing the XP boot screen and still has enough of XP left to give me a friggin' BSOD...I think there's a good chance the drive is not (totally) corrupted.
Allrighty, thanks for the help...Ill see what I can salvage...
ZubaZ
Reply #19 Saturday, May 7, 2005 12:18 AM
If the network adapter is fairly current you can.
Reply #19 Saturday, May 7, 2005 12:18 AM
| With knoppix, could I hook up to the LAN here and transfer the files that way? |
If the network adapter is fairly current you can.
Jafo
Reply #20 Sunday, May 8, 2005 5:53 AM
Reply #20 Sunday, May 8, 2005 5:53 AM
If there's one drive brand I'd steer clear of it's IBM.....
Drop those letters each back one space in the alphabet and you'll get a better machine....
HAL ....
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Reply #1 Saturday, April 23, 2005 6:02 AM
or, (this is what i do a lot when a virus, etc. has compromised windows) get knoppix, which you can boot from cd, and from there, you can access all the files on your hdd, and back them up to some cd's; then just do a clean reinstall of windows.