Blissful Blue
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Blissful Blue

Updated Oct 03, 2005 by ~Angelic DestinE


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Fairyy~
Comment #1 Tuesday, October 04, 2005 3:50 PM
Well..............here's my two cents worth

Excellent SS Angelic

I've been treated very fairly by everybody that hangs around the SS gallery, but when you start with a 5(2.5 stars)its tough to end up with a good rating and I understand that the moderators are overworked and underpaid and the SS gallery is on the bottom of the totem pole. Maybe there should be limits on the numer of SS posted it a given time period Anyway I joined, now I can vote.

Hang it there Angelic, if enough people protest, it might change, you can cut and run or do a Fairyy and speak out, I thanks its already helped

Angel is quite able to be outspoken....but im still mystified by the roller coaster rating im seeing. I still think its not fixed. For instance if a moderator like Jafo sets a rating it takes 5 average subscribers to over ride his rating. The " bug" that had or still is in this section was overriding the moderators rating. This shot had a 3 star rating, I gave it 5 stars and it averaged out to 3.5 ...now its 3 stars again..so i can assume someone gave it 1 star to knock it back to 3 again..I really dont know why someone would do that..but...once again, remember ratings are not anonymous. Moderators can check and see just what you gave .
Fairyy~
Comment #2 Tuesday, October 04, 2005 3:59 PM
Thanks, Chazz and Mary Jane. I just think this website's going to hell and fast. When somebody has to point out to a mod that certain people who consistently put effort and care into their shots have never had a featured screenshot, there's something very wrong. BTW congrats on your getting daily shot and Lynny too. They're well-deserved and long overdue. It's about damned time.


The reason I pointed that out was because I know that not many take the time to really moderate this section..they just dont have the people to do it. One of my main points was that if the same people submit several shots a day ...they are picked for daily shot because they are seen on the first 2 or 3 pages constantly. I dont think it was an intentional " slight" but more of a haphazard system of just picking from first few pages. Obviously someone is taking the time to look back at other shots now.
ernie leo
Comment #3 Tuesday, October 04, 2005 5:19 PM
Moderators can check and see just what you gave


What would that do, if a person wants to rate low that there right, what I'am curious about, can you vote more than once? Not that I would, but if you can, there's a chance for abuse.
OzGirl
Comment #4 Tuesday, October 04, 2005 5:24 PM
Hi Angel, yes you have put way too much work in this SS and deserves a lot higher score, I do know what you mean about the rating. Take it this way if you like just do it for your self and not worry about it much, it happens to all of us and it drove me crazy at one stage like a lot of things at this site. So I took a LONG break from it all and now I have a new outlook to it all.
GREAT WORK and well done on all of the things in the SS just think there are people that appreciate each others work. Just do it for fun because that's all it should really be. You know how good a job you can do your self and as I can see a lot of other people.

Comment #5 Tuesday, October 04, 2005 5:59 PM
Angel, I just gave this 5 stars and it didn't budge. Makes me think something funny going on. It is a very nice shot with alot of work in it.

Comment #6 Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:08 PM
Looks like it is up to 4. Maybe it did make the difference!!!
~Angelic DestinE
Comment #7 Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:33 PM
Know what? I love you guys. Coming here to read all the responses was worth more than any rating ever could be. I hope I don't forget anybody's points here:

Mary Jane and Ernie, I'm so glad you became subscribers. Aside from being able to rate it also means unlimited downloads for the duration of the subscription AND it means you can post with just your name and not a mandatory title like Citizen or Mr./Mrs. I don't think if you rate something once, the second rating counts again but I could be wrong. I don't imagine the criteria for ratings abuse like this could be very strict because, quite frankly, I sometimes don't remember if I've rated something in the past so I rate it again for good measure. Now, if somebody rates it a 10 like 10 times in a row without refreshing the page that's a different story. And Ern... I would have pulled a Fairyy and gotten on the soap box in that article but it was locked by the time I saw it. I don't think you were coming to the site when I was in my rabble-rousing days. I was quite opinionated. Just ask some of the others here. Heh.

Buzz, thanks so much for your sweet comments. I appreciate them more than you know. You're the king of cool widgets around here and I cannot fathom even how to edit a widget let alone make one. Thanks for taking the time to comment and help boost my ego.

Karen, glad you liked the stationery. Thanks a million for adding comments, my friend. It seems somebody out there listened because this screenie flew up to an 8, which makes me feel a lot better. I know from experience that at certain times of the day, depending on who mods this section, initial ratings can vary drastically. One or more of the mods have in the past rated the shots fairly and I can tell because sometimes I've started out with a 7. I agree with Ernie, there needs to be a limit to the number of screenshots allowed per day... not as strict as Customize.org which allows only one every 24 hours, because that would then discourage some of our members and make them leave. WC can't afford that, I'm gathering and a lot of people seem to be gravitating toward DA which, considering the recent commercialization of that place and the whole Jark issue, well I'm not yet ready to subscribe there when I think things here can be turned around. I say, to get more incentive for people to subscribe, non-subscribers should be allowed to submit only 2, maybe 3 screenshots per day (other skins unlimited), and let subscribers submit 5 screenshots every 24 hours if they want to. Maybe it's been discussed around the water cooler already, but that might be a good trial plan.

Thanks Bliss, Pup, Chazz, and Chuck for your feedback. Your comments turned a semi-lousy day into a great one.

Tina, it's wonderful to see you back here! I missed you, and thanks so much for commenting. I understand needing to take a big break when things aren't right. I always considered you a remarkable person, even when we had our little difference. *Hugs* That person I used to be was sick and paranoid. Thanks for hanging in there with me.

Cindi... what can I say other than I'm glad you took the time to comment. And rate it. It means a lot to me. But what means even more is that we're all a group of friends again.

Thanks for ALL the support everybody! If me sulking around inspired more people to subscribe to this place then my soap box journey wasn't in vain... lol. And nope, I didn't plan it. I'm not that good.

OzGirl
Comment #8 Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:27 PM
Thank you Angel on your reply and you are most welcome in every way. I have to thank you for your comments towards me and the feeling is mutual. What happened in the past is just that the past, I don't keep bad things im my heart and do believe we are only humans and those horrible days just happen. Most important is not to be ignorant, life is really short and I do believe people should forgive and forget and no one is right or wrong when things get to be said in a rush when the tongue is faster than the brain.
Take care Angel and keep in touch as you said it's great to have friends it's the best feeling.
Fairyy~
Comment #9 Wednesday, October 05, 2005 12:15 AM
Comment# 16 By Citizen ernie leo [
Moderators can check and see just what you gave


What would that do, if a person wants to rate low that there right, what I'am curious about, can you vote more than once? Not that I would, but if you can, there's a chance for abuse.


No..you can only vote once. And of course you can rate something low if thats your opinion. I'm referring to the person that doesnt even look at the SS and just clicks rating buttons down the page. Its been done and a moderator will look for that type of rating behavior. That is not rating " art" thats abusing your privelidge to rate. They can remove your right to rate if you abuse it.
Fairyy~
Comment #10 Wednesday, October 05, 2005 12:37 AM
I agree with Ernie, there needs to be a limit to the number of screenshots allowed per day... not as strict as Customize.org which allows only one every 24 hours, because that would then discourage some of our members and make them leave. WC can't afford that, I'm gathering and a lot of people seem to be gravitating toward DA which, considering the recent commercialization of that place and the whole Jark issue, well I'm not yet ready to subscribe there when I think things here can be turned around. I say, to get more incentive for people to subscribe, non-subscribers should be allowed to submit only 2, maybe 3 screenshots per day (other skins unlimited), and let subscribers submit 5 screenshots every 24 hours if they want to. Maybe it's been discussed around the water cooler already, but that might be a good trial plan.


Thats something we will never agree on. I know you like to submit 3 to 5 shots at a time..but you dont do it everyday..but, I still think 5 is over kill. As far as a visitor..sorry, I think they shouldnt have the same benefits as the rest of us. Some have been " visitors" for years...they will never bother subscribing.
Think in these terms Angel...You submit 5 screen shots at 11pm on Tuesday..Ernie submits 5 at 11:30 pm...seapup another 5 at 1am...i come along with 5 more at 2 am..then betty, and tina and cindi...then jazzy , fervc and windoe..and 4 am lynnyf ..5 more.
The default setting at WC is 5 skins/SS's per page. They upload in order recieved. After your upload of 5 SS's thats 45 more not counting the visitors etc..your screen shots are now uploaded to site and are already on page 10 with 45+ screen shots ahead of yours. Now think about that...but if everyone(of the 10 subscribers) could only upload ONE ..the worse scenario is your SS is last on page 2 ....
I average 2 a week. I've had shots burried on many occasions...looks at most of my screen shots..20+ comments but 4 d/loads recorded...I have deleted 40% of my shots. I see no reason to store them forever. I've even deleted a SS if it had a "gold seal"

Its all how you look at it....
Simbul
Comment #11 Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:02 AM
Great looking SS! Very well put together!
~Angelic DestinE
Comment #12 Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:10 AM
That is a very good point. Besides, I don't have the energy to look through 45 screenshots no matter how good they are. This must be why Customize.org has that rule in place. I think maybe you're right. The one every 24 hours rule would stop the spamming for sure and people would just have to deal; it wouldn't be the end of the world. If WC could put limitations on accounts that aren't subscribers, that would definitely be a strong incentive to subscribe but then would people start yelling discrimination? I'm not sure. As is, non-subscribers have their downloads limited and cannot access certain features. Perhaps a maximum upload quota should be in effect for them too, not to punish, but rather to encourage more people who use this site to actually subscribe. It's food for thought.

MJ - about the WC Browser, I rarely use it. I have it installed but I'm still content to just use IE to get here. I am slowly forcing myself to de-windowize my computing experience. A huge step for me is using an ObjectBar that hides the start panel. That's always my first reflex so it's interesting observing how much longer it takes for me to do things.
Fairyy~
Comment #13 Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:52 AM
but then would people start yelling discrimination? I'm not sure. As is, non-subscribers have their downloads limited and cannot access certain features. Perhaps a maximum upload quota should be in effect for them too, not to punish, but rather to encourage more people who use this site to actually subscribe. It's food for thought.


Im sure they will figure something out. Frogboy did mention this in his first article on front page about the future of wincustomize. As for anyone yelling " discrimination" Let them yell..its a private site owned by Frogboy and he can run it any way he chooses..and that will be the final say.

Anytime you feel the need to do 5 screen shots..you can always mail them to me ..or put them on your beautiful incredimail ..you and pandapaws have great email
~Angelic DestinE
Comment #14 Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:34 AM
Thanks... Panda was the one who got me into Incredimail with her beautiful stationery. I wish you had a Pop3 account or something other than AOL. I get more Mailer-Demons from your address than I know what to do with.
Fairyy~
Comment #15 Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:12 PM
Thanks... Panda was the one who got me into Incredimail with her beautiful stationery. I wish you had a Pop3 account or something other than AOL. I get more Mailer-Demons from your address than I know what to do with.

Damn AOL....they do this because they want people to have a " white Spam " license .. if you put several addy's on one email..then send more than 2 or 3 in a row..the spam guard bounces it back..I have no preferences set for them to do this.
If you want..try addressing mail to me using AOL and my yahoo addy. For 6 weeks one time..buzz had to send all my mail to yahoo. AOL would not allow his new zealand carrier to send me mail. Every mail he sent me took 2 to 5 days if it got to me at all. He used yahoo for the 6 weeks ..i spent hours yelling about this. 20 emails and 6 phone calls later..it was fixed. I'll email you with yahoo addy.
PandaPaws
Comment #16 Wednesday, October 05, 2005 6:16 PM
Wow...i thought my ears were burning....lol Thank you Angelic and Fairyy for the nice comments. I give credit to my dad for introducing Incredimail to me because i will never use anything else. I really like the fact they have the junk mail folder. I love my stationary and animations which makes emailing so much fun! I have too many tho and its hard to pick. Angelic you make some really pretty letters and Fairyy has some nice ones as well!

Angelic i left you a comment last nite and it said i was #22 but its not on here today (strange ) Anyways...i said you can tell you put alot of time and effort into this screenshot!
PandaPaws
Comment #17 Wednesday, October 05, 2005 6:22 PM
Oh yea btw....i would love to subscribe to the site because like Fairyy said....things can change and be turned around to please everyone but i only work 2-3 days a week and i just can't afford to subscribe to anything. I believe everyone should be noticed on here because there are some really creative and talented people here! And the comments about the limitations on screenshots submitted on a daily basis is a good idea in my opinion only because im on dialup and it takes me forever to look through them all (and yes i look through them all) Someday i hope to be able to subscribe so i can have a voice and vote! I'm still waiting on my 5 minutes of fame in the daily shot category...lol
~Angelic DestinE
Comment #18 Thursday, October 06, 2005 4:43 PM
AOL would not allow his new zealand carrier to send me mail


See, that kind of crapolla and other issues are why I ditched AOL all together. They make me so mad! Not to mention they're big fat liars when it comes to their so-called "deal" with Comcast.net, which, by the way does not exist. You don't have to be an AOL member to get the good deal on Comcast. I don't know what kind of OS or anything you run, Karen, but if your system is able to run Object Desktop I would think it could probably handle a service like Verizon DSL or Pacbell.net or something other than AOL. Most of the providers now offer a free Antivirus program like AOL does so you wouldn't be giving anything up... just a lot of headaches. I sent something to your Yahoo called Testing 123. Let's see if that works.

Panda... you never got a daily shot? That's just plum wrong. You make great screenies. I hope you get featured soon.
Fairyy~
Comment #19 Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:07 PM
I sent something to your Yahoo called Testing 123. Let's see if that works.


worked just fine .
~Angelic DestinE
Comment #20 Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:59 PM
Coolies. I still think you should get rid of AOL.

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