MPAA targets core BitTorrent, eDonkey users

The MPAA strikes again

Wednesday, December 15, 2004 by Frogboy | Discussion: Personal Computing

The Motion Picture Association of America launched a new legal campaign Tuesday targeting the BitTorrent and eDonkey file-swapping networks, two technologies widely used to trade movies online.

Ratcheting up its previous online antipiracy efforts, the Hollywood group is working with law enforcement agencies in the United States and Europe to target and arrest individuals who play a critical role in the functioning of each type of network.

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craeonics
Reply #21 Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:16 AM
Aside from issues as such bringing all the idiots out of the woodwork (on both sides of the argument, see above for some prime examples), I have some doubts on the juridical basis of these actions (not taking sides here).

A BitTorrent tracker or an eDonkey server itself does not host the data. It merely plays the role of a traffic cop, directing people to the data. But none of it ever travels across the tracker/server itself. So is it illegal to direct people to warez?
videoluvr (Anonymous User)
Reply #22 Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:43 AM
I guess the person named messybuu must work for the riaa or mpaa.Technology has given people a way to trade music.What do we do stop technology from advancing?Im sure the companies are spending a bunch of money trying to stop people from sharing but there will always be a way to get around it.Face it its a losing battle which will end up pissing people off and make them download even more.If people really knew how much they make off a cd it would really make them mad.In the end they will not win""Besides you cant get blood from a stone""Most people will continue to download music and movies just like pirated software.
ecrunas (Anonymous User)
Reply #23 Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:41 AM
craeonics's pretty damn right, i mean, the actual bittorent wasn't intentionally made JUST to prirate cds, etc. but legal stuff like ppls .bmp images... rofl, one day, ppl will probably be p2p'ing via msn.....
Characager (Anonymous User)
Reply #24 Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:38 AM
Unlike everyone, I'm looking to the future. Even now, small P2P networks like Grouper are popping out where people can share files with others secretly. It's not like Kazaa in which everyone is connected, but only certain individuals can download your stuff from your hard drive.

So, if the MPAA and RIAA succeed in bringing down BitTorrent networks and eDonkey, the smaller less popular P2P networks will get some play time. But eventually that will stop. And the time of piracy will end... and the era of smuggling (also can be defined as secret piracy) will begin.
lulius cardines
Reply #25 Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:37 PM
Who cares..... WAREZ IS DA SHIZZ! BITTORRENT EDONKEY ANY FILE SHARING IS THE BEST! WHO CARES IF IT IS ILLEGAL! Whats gonna happen? Is the givernment gonna confiscate my computer?.... im sooo Scared!
XX
Reply #26 Friday, December 17, 2004 1:38 AM
Is the givernment gonna confiscate my computer?.... im sooo Scared!


It's possible. You should be...
Snowman
Reply #27 Friday, December 17, 2004 3:40 AM
in my opinion filesharing is NOT a crime !!


Filesharing as such isnt illegal, it rather much depend on what you share and how the file(s) were optained

Taking down BitTorrent for being the application it is would be a real shame. Alot of (legal) companies use BitTorrent for destribution of their software and updates of the same.
....BUT if I read any of the articles correct only the hardcore illegal trackers will be targeted
-OZZY-
Reply #28 Friday, December 17, 2004 3:56 AM
that's not very hopefull Snowman........
i'd rather have them attack the legal ones
guess we'll see what's going to happen.......
Snowman
Reply #29 Friday, December 17, 2004 10:38 AM
i'd rather have them attack the legal ones


ummmm...... that makes just s much sense to me as sticking my head into a turned on blender...
craeonics
Reply #30 Friday, December 17, 2004 11:18 AM
ummmm...... that makes just s much sense to me as sticking my head into a turned on blender...


Indeed. Ozzy, what're you talking about?
-OZZY-
Reply #31 Friday, December 17, 2004 11:34 AM
oh my god....
i'm just saying that i would not
very much like to see 'm target the illegal trackers
was it really that hard ???
that would be a pretty big blender snowman....good luck with that !!
-OZZY-
Reply #32 Friday, December 17, 2004 5:03 PM
yeah whatever.........well everybody good luck overhere
adios
messybuu
Reply #33 Friday, December 17, 2004 5:43 PM

It's because Ozzy doesn't care about the legal trackers since they provide no service to him (i.e. pirated games, pirated music, etc.).


I guess the person named messybuu must work for the riaa or mpaa.


I wish! But I'm sure in the same boat as you and your kind (i.e. jobless).

EventHorizon
Reply #34 Saturday, December 18, 2004 11:58 AM
Who cares..... WAREZ IS DA SHIZZ! BITTORRENT EDONKEY ANY FILE SHARING IS THE BEST! WHO CARES IF IT IS ILLEGAL! Whats gonna happen? Is the givernment gonna confiscate my computer?.... im sooo Scared!


Couldn't stardock give this guys IP over to the 'authorities' to get him prosecuted, since he's blatantly admitting that he takes part in illegal activity?
BanditJing
Reply #35 Monday, December 20, 2004 11:02 AM
Link


Check it out. Looks like Suprnova.org is gone for good.
MadPyro
Reply #36 Monday, December 20, 2004 2:19 PM
haha major bittorrent site is down now.

suprnova.org is now down and possibly for good.
StumpMan
Reply #37 Monday, January 03, 2005 10:23 AM
Ok, I admit I am a little behind in responding to this, but hey, I wanted to offer my opinion on it.

Regardless of which side of the aisle you are on concerning pirating music/movies, here is a thought.

Treating your customers like criminals is always a bad business practice. They only true way to eliminate piracy (and I know that it cannot be 100% defeated) is to offer a low cost alternative. ITunes and the like that offer music for 99 cents is a good start. Instead of trying to twist the internet to fit your business model, adjust your business model to fit the internet.
paxx
Reply #38 Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:15 AM
Stumpman, a customer is somebody who pays for a good or a service. Not the case here.


I recently read an article that made me laugh... Basically, about one teenager out of two massively uses firesharing to download huge amounts of music. According to the survey, stores such as iTunes make no difference. Teens responded: Why pay for something I can get for free?
On the other hand, and here is the irony, those same teens will gladly and proudly pay 2 or 3 dollars for a 30 second RING TONE for their cell phone... and yet they won't pay 1 dollar for a complete 3 minute song. Funny, isn't it? Busted me up when I read that.

Anyway, online stores such as Apple's, much appeal to the adult population but very little to the teens - which were typically the #1 customers for CD's and records.


Movies are a different matter though. Teens were never a big client base for the purchase of movies. On the other hand, it might be hurting the video rental industry... or maybe not, dunno. There seems to be as many people in the video store now than there always was.
CygnusXII
Reply #39 Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:21 AM
Especially now that BlockBuster has done away with late fees.
Lynx's Den
Reply #40 Friday, January 07, 2005 10:10 AM
My Opinion????

Well personally i don't know what all the hype is about, they been trying for years.... I have yet to see in our constitution, or laws that states that sharing is a crime, but of course as far as the RIAA, MPAA and Many others, basicly call it a crime simply because they have no control (just like anything else) and are not making finacial gains by it (basicly Greed).... once the little guy makes a move, and major organizations can't control it, they convienently call it a crime, (look at what happened to companies like 321 Studios, who offered product that the RIAA/MPAA didn't approve of), and trust me these industries and organitions aren't hurting, they still make billions every year, not to mention the behind the scenes crap you don't see or hear about (i know i worked for a few). Now don't get me wrong i don't condone pirating one bit, those ignorant enough to pull stupid SH&T, should be locked up (and are basicly the reason why this is such an issue). But if your using these for your own personal use, and not using it by means of obtaining any finacial gain (which is the base of copyright infringement laws) i don't see anything wrong with that (when it is freely being offered). I know no-one in here, if you were offered something for free, would turn it down.... But it makes me wonder, what are we turning into, when we pass judgement and consider things like sharing a crime, just because some organizations say so.... "THE WAY OF THE WORLD HUH" Just my opinion (maybe I'm just talking outta my butt )

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