MPAA targets core BitTorrent, eDonkey users

The MPAA strikes again

Wednesday, December 15, 2004 by Frogboy | Discussion: Personal Computing

The Motion Picture Association of America launched a new legal campaign Tuesday targeting the BitTorrent and eDonkey file-swapping networks, two technologies widely used to trade movies online.

Ratcheting up its previous online antipiracy efforts, the Hollywood group is working with law enforcement agencies in the United States and Europe to target and arrest individuals who play a critical role in the functioning of each type of network.

Full article: [Here]

 

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kingbee
Reply #1 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 4:06 AM

to this moment, every virtual lock quickly inspires new virtual keys which in turn inspire creation of even more secure locks.  im not a brilliant engineer or any kinda engineer, much less brilliant. based on what's happened til now, i'll be more than a little suprised should locksmiths suddenly vanquish keymakers or vice-versa.

while the filetraders have no legal or ethical defense and mpaa has every right to both defend its property and attack thieves, it would be much easier to view mpaa as victim if it hadnt made such a mockery of the very copyright law it now claims to champion

Steve Grenier
Reply #2 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 8:00 AM
I hope they don't screw up those 2 mthods of getting files. First Napster, then Kazaa, now these 2. They are starting to piss me off
NES_Boy (Anonymous User)
Reply #3 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:51 PM
Because their property is sold at a much to high prise.
messybuu
Reply #4 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:11 PM
What's wrong with protecting their own property from freeloaders?
UrMaMa (Anonymous User)
Reply #5 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:44 PM
stupid motherfuckers keep ur asses out of my filesharing buisiness!!!
12@12.12 (Anonymous User)
Reply #6 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:49 PM
messybuu
Reply #7 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 3:27 PM
Because their property is sold at a much to high prise.


If it's too high, it wouldn't sell, but it does, so it clearly isn't. It might be too high for you, but the price of a Porsche is too high for me. Does that mean the government should force the manufacturer to lower the price of Porsches since I can't afford one? Are you suggesting that the government force price ceilings on these companies.

I personally think "UrMama"'s statement is the most sincere in that you people simply don't want to pay for things.
Ande
Reply #8 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:15 PM
Well I'll be - pissed off because he might not be able to steal any more?
Think about this, Work - Buy - Appreciate.
Ande
Reply #9 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:19 PM
Very interesting article. Seems they may have a little way to go.
aznballa161 (Anonymous User)
Reply #10 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 9:55 PM
noone ever said anything about the government having to force anyone to lower the price.
the people who can afford the movies should go buy it, for us people who cannot, we can download it online. what seems to be the problem? if they're making enough money selling their movies then they shouldnt worry about us downloading them. they should only be worried if they're not, and if they're not its probally because the price is too high.
CygnusXII
Reply #11 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:26 PM
Yeah, right so the record companies rip folks off for over 15 years or so, by price fixing cd prices (never mind the monies they made off of this scam, and eventually had to pay a whopping $13 to those that signed up for the class action suit www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2002-09-30-cd-settlement_x.htm), the movie and record industry rips off folks by shady accounting practices(www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2002-09-15-artists-rights_x.htm
www.billboard.com/bb/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1713005
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3903135.stm
hollywoodnetwork.com/Law/Hart/columns/, disney foists enhanced copyright laws onto the US populace via lobbyist and snatches Mickey Mouse out of the publics hands
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_Term_Extension_Act, Congress and the United States Gov (FCC) gaurds the Broadcast Bands for the Public Interest ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Radio_Commission)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Channels_Act )as a resource and then Auctions them to the Highest Bidder (in the public Interest, of course.) Big Gov-Co. and Media Industries foist Broadcast Flag technology onto Ma and Pa Consumer, ensuring that they have no control over the content that comes into thier homes, over thier airwaves
news.com.com/2010-1028-5226979.html.
Regular TV Bandwidth is going to be carved into slices and sold to bring on the Next wave of Cellphones and Gadgetry (for the Public Interest, mind you,) instead of reverting to Public Access (as Intended.)

Also there is a record high of profits for the Recording Industry,despite the P2P phoenomena, Indy Bands are Growing, and Albums are selling, not to mention iTunes and every other take off service (be it Walmart online song sales or any other service.)
Remember there is no honour amongst thieves.

I really think it is the Pot calling the kettle black.

Remember it wasn't even a crime according to the original Articles concerning copyright.
assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00000506----000-.html
www.libertolaw.com/7-98.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NET_Act
CygnusXII
Reply #12 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:28 PM
man them links really got mangled...
I edited them so if ya want to go to them please cut and paste. I tried to show that my opinions are based more on fact than on feeling. I know I belong to the "Tin Foil Hat Patrol" or a Cult, or a Booby-hatchery, but "Hey!" I am free and living amongst you.
Be afraid!Very AFRAID!
Da1Forte
Reply #13 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:29 PM
well im a pirate till the end and im sure we will find a way to swap files if they stop torrents and edonkey....dont worry brothers, as long as movies are released we will continue to bootleg em and spread them around the world for free...F the MPAA and the RIAA...The day they stop Pirates is the day they charge property tax on churches...it will never happen
hachoo_wilzer
Reply #14 Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:32 PM
hey Steve - go 420 and chill. Its the best thing to do.
hachoo_wilzer
Reply #15 Thursday, December 16, 2004 12:04 AM
Stealing is stealing. Regardless of what any of us think about the RIAA or the MPAA, its the artist who ultimately pay for the theft of their IP. I sincerely hope that with the evolution of the technologies associated with the recording industries there will come the day when the RIAA and the MPAA will be nothing more than memories. Sure, the power/greed mindset will have to be dealt with and made irrelevant, but thats where the indies are so important. Even then, there will be those who would rather steal than pay, well, thieves have been a part of humanity since day 1. Instead of bootlegging i.e. stealing copyrighted product, why don't you find an indie to get behind, and help in the promoting/distributing of their product. This will go further towards ridding ourselves of the RIAA/MPAA vultures than any criminal activity will. ;{>
messybuu
Reply #16 Thursday, December 16, 2004 1:28 AM

the people who can afford the movies should go buy it, for us people who cannot, we can download it online. what seems to be the problem? if they're making enough money selling their movies then they shouldnt worry about us downloading them. they should only be worried if they're not, and if they're not its probally because the price is too high.


So, you're saying that piracy should be legalized, except for people who can afford to buy a CD (and are you saying that you literally do not have 15 dollars to purchase a CD or 20 dollars to purchase a movie and if not, then how can you afford a PC and the Internet?)?

messybuu
Reply #17 Thursday, December 16, 2004 1:30 AM

Stealing is stealing. Regardless of what any of us think about the RIAA or the MPAA, its the artist who ultimately pay for the theft of their IP. I sincerely hope that with the evolution of the technologies associated with the recording industries there will come the day when the RIAA and the MPAA will be nothing more than memories. Sure, the power/greed mindset will have to be dealt with and made irrelevant, but thats where the indies are so important. Even then, there will be those who would rather steal than pay, well, thieves have been a part of humanity since day 1. Instead of bootlegging i.e. stealing copyrighted product, why don't you find an indie to get behind, and help in the promoting/distributing of their product. This will go further towards ridding ourselves of the RIAA/MPAA vultures than any criminal activity will. ;{>


Indeed. One has to wonder if these Einsteins think that piracy helps indie artists. Sure, they might do some damage to the RIAA and MPAA, but they will recover, while the indie ones simply won't be able to take such a hit. Of course, it's not about screwing the RIAA or anything just. It's about wanting something for nothing.

Chronigan (Anonymous User)
Reply #18 Thursday, December 16, 2004 1:31 AM
Except that every artists that has started giving away music on there web site has seen cd sales rise.
messybuu
Reply #19 Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:33 AM

Except that every artists that has started giving away music on there web site has seen cd sales rise.


Artists who give away the tracks off their entire CDs for free on their sites have seen sales rise? Even if so, does that mean that piracy should be legalized?

-OZZY-
Reply #20 Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:43 AM
in my opinion filesharing is NOT a crime !!
somebody plz xplain 2 me how this can be a crime !
i do however agree that owning illegal copies of movies,
cd's etc. is illegal and therefore a crime !!

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