Lesson on what not to do on Twitter

Wednesday, April 16, 2014 by Island Dog | Discussion: Life, the Universe and Everything

Yeah, it's not very wise to tweet terrorist threats to an airline on Twitter. The Dutch girl ended up being arrested for this.

 

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TheBirthdayParty
Reply #21 Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:26 AM



Quoting Alstein, reply 17She's stupid as all hell, but this should be $50 and time served type of deal.

I don't like ruining someone's life over a stupid mistake that resulted in no serious harm.

No...it's a systemic ignorance of consequence.

She NEEDS to do time....if not to save her stupidity...[she's beyond that] but to deter all those eff-wits who have even less of a brain.

10 years would be a decent lesson.

 

Easy to say when its not you are a dear loved one who would be doing 10 years. Easy to say online and not to this person's face.

Wizard1956
Reply #22 Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:41 AM

10 years would be a decent lesson.
I think a lifetime of body cavity/strip searches at every airport she enters should be enough to keep her laughing about her "joke" for a long, long time.

Island Dog
Reply #23 Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:49 AM

TheBirthdayParty
Thank fully there's once place its easy to tell its all opinion, Faux news!

Wrong, but nice try.

 

ElanaAhova
Reply #24 Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:50 AM

Island Dog


Quoting TheBirthdayParty, reply 20Thank fully there's once place its easy to tell its all opinion, Faux news!



Wrong, but nice try.

 

 

Wrong, but nice try! 

DrJBHL
Reply #25 Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:59 AM

Barrynor
No, not "whatever". The semi-national color of the Netherlands is Orange, its royal house is called "Huis van Oranje" , which translates to " House of Orange" ... thats why he said " she's dutch".

The OP has nothing to do with nationality, therefore the use of 'orange' [nothing to do with the House of Orange] - there's no reason to take offense as that has to do with the color of prison clothing here, which has nothing to do with the House of Orange (which originally had nothing to do with the color, but rather the Province of Orange in Normandy).

Here, to make you happier: "I expect she'll tire of prison stripes fairly quickly."

 

Jafo
Reply #26 Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:52 PM

TheBirthdayParty
Easy to say when its not you are a dear loved one who would be doing 10 years. Easy to say online and not to this person's face.

Yes...it's easy to say....AND I would say it to a person's face AND I wouldn't care who it was...family members don't get a free pass.

A fucking idiot is exactly that, irrelevant of relationship.

RedneckDude
Reply #27 Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:57 PM

LightStar

Biggest thing not to do on Twitter is to sign up in the first place.

Yes!

 

DrJBHL
Reply #28 Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:41 PM

A fucking idiot is exactly that, irrelevant of relationship.

True for the most part...but sometimes the idiocy is of a structural, chromosomal and/or genetic type...in which case relationship is not only relevant, but causal as well.

 

Jafo
Reply #29 Friday, April 18, 2014 12:30 AM

Stupidity is an inheritable gene ...

Campaigner
Reply #30 Friday, April 18, 2014 4:06 AM

I just realized that if it was her friend who did that then it's really easy to give someone trouble if you got their facebook/twitter and such account information.

 

If she's going to be punished for this, then that means that announcing things isn't the way to go. Being quiet and doing things in absolute secrecy is the way.

 

 

Jafo, you must be a bitter, angry person for wanting to punish people so severely for joking. It's just absurd what you want.

Fuzzy Logic
Reply #31 Friday, April 18, 2014 4:37 AM

Some people need to learn what's a joke and what's not.

This was an act of incredible stupidity and recklessness.

Morons like this need to be removed from society and taught proper values.

 

If the bit about her friend is true (probably isn't - it wasn't me, it was my imaginary friend...), then it also a lesson about personal security and not letting anyone have access to your login details.

starkers
Reply #32 Friday, April 18, 2014 4:43 AM

Campaigner
Jafo, you must be a bitter, angry person for wanting to punish people so severely for joking. It's just absurd what you want.

I'm all for people taking responsibility for their actions, and if that means a bit of prison time, then so be it.  However, the punishment should fit the crime and not go over the top for an act of stupidity in which noone was harmed.  Whether this girl or her friend tweeted this message, 10 years is an over-the-top kneejerk reaction and is just as silly as the tweet in question.

What I'd like to see is perpetrators of violent crimes, where people are hurt, tortured, raped, actually serve out their sentences and have no chance of parole after just a few years of being a 'model prisoner'  All too often rapists reoffend while on parole after serving just 5 or 6 years of a 12 - 15 year sentence, and that's just wrong.  Parole for serial sex offenders should never be an option.  In fact, it should be mandatory that all sex offenders are castrated, as well as serving the full sentence handed down by the court... and that sentence should be no less than 15 - 20 years, or more, depending on the severity of the offence.

So yes, it is fair enough to be angry regarding crime, but that anger needs to be proportionate to the crime.  Therefore, to suggest that some silly little girl gets 10 years for a stupid tweet, while a rapist gets just 5 years for violating another person physically and emotionally, is completely off balance and not proportionate to the crime.

Uvah
Reply #33 Friday, April 18, 2014 5:04 AM

     It isn't the joke that's the issue here, its the nature of the joke itself. A terroristic threat cannot be taken lightly under any circumstances joke or no. Social media has one major flaw, it does not allow for face to face communications where you can actually see the person you are talking to. That's how vice squads lure pedophiles and other criminals by pretending to be potential victims. Text on a screen can be typed by anyone pretending to be anything they choose. Before I posted a pic of myself no one knew what I looked like. I can say anything I want and people take that at face value. How would the airline know it was just a young girl pulling a prank, no way of knowing. Even an admission doesn't qualify. Again because they can't see who is behind the texting.

     Granted it was incredibly stupid but the answer though harsh because of her age, should send a clear message that such things cannot and will not be tolerated regardless of who is doing it. Also because she is a minor the prank will be considered based on that. Restrictions, the loss of certain privileges, community service is what's called for. Even a stint in juvenile hall for a time. It has to be taken seriously because you don't know who is on the other end. What is really needed is a re-evaluation of family values. Parents need to instill in their kids a strong sense of the differences between right and wrong. Teach them to be leaders, not followers and how not to bow down to peer pressure. Not saying that's the case here though. In the end she will learn a very hard lesson that will probably be with her the rest of her life unless of course it is expunged when she's old enough to be considered an adult. In the US a kid that age can be charged as an adult and we all know how that goes. A very long time behind bars plus a permanent blot on her record. Something that will follow her for the rest of her life. I don't see that happening here.  

 

My two cents. 

DrJBHL
Reply #34 Friday, April 18, 2014 5:17 AM

Campaigner
Jafo, you must be a bitter, angry person for wanting to punish people so severely for joking. It's just absurd what you want.

Really?

You see Campaigner, what Jafo, Fuzzy and I as well as others are saying is that what she did wasn't a joke and wasn't at all funny...it was an irresponsibly stupid act in a time when maniacs do actually perform acts of terror which kill and maim. 

 

 

Barrynor
Reply #35 Friday, April 18, 2014 8:31 AM

DrJBHL


Quoting Barrynor, reply 16No, not "whatever". The semi-national color of the Netherlands is Orange, its royal house is called "Huis van Oranje" , which translates to " House of Orange" ... thats why he said " she's dutch".

The OP has nothing to do with nationality, therefore the use of 'orange' [nothing to do with the House of Orange] - there's no reason to take offense as that has to do with the color of prison clothing here, which has nothing to do with the House of Orange (which originally had nothing to do with the color, but rather the Province of Orange in Normandy).

Here, to make you happier: "I expect she'll tire of prison stripes fairly quickly."

 

 

Did I take offense? If you took it that way, then urr, nope. Appearently you are already aware of the history connection to Orange, and Oranje as a national color... so... never mind...

 

 

At any rate, I'm sure you all did nothing stupid when you were younger. Maybe not THIS stupid  (I use did not )but fourteen year olds are prone to stupidity. It comes with the age. Saying that they have to go into prison for ten years is, however, even stupider... yes, we live in a world with terrorism, no, its not funny to make "joke" threats, but ten years in prison is not a fitting response.

Jafo
Reply #36 Friday, April 18, 2014 8:41 AM

Yes...all things in perspective...but then when I say 10 years for terrorist-threat 'jokes' I'm also thinking summary execution for rape/murder, etc.

Every time I see a parolee kill/rape someone I see a criminal justice system that has failed.

smeagolheart
Reply #37 Friday, April 18, 2014 4:30 PM


Yes...all things in perspective...but then when I say 10 years for terrorist-threat 'jokes' I'm also thinking summary execution for rape/murder, etc.

Every time I see a parolee kill/rape someone I see a criminal justice system that has failed.

 

And what do you see when an innocent person gets released from jail after 19 years in prison on some fake charges and is completely exonerated?   Someone who should have been executed before those pesky facts got out?

 

 

myfist0
Reply #38 Friday, April 18, 2014 5:29 PM

The Ministry of Truth approves of this relatively meaningless story of an immature child's mistake going viral, and all the public persecution helps our vision of the future. Anyone that disagrees will soon be escorted to the Ministry of Love for re-education. 

Jafo
Reply #39 Friday, April 18, 2014 8:31 PM

smeagolheart
And what do you see when an innocent person gets released from jail after 19 years in prison on some fake charges and is completely exonerated? Someone who should have been executed before those pesky facts got out?

Rare as rocking horse shit...whereas repeat offenders...paedophiles, rapists, murderers are a dime a dozen....

Protoplazm
Reply #40 Friday, April 18, 2014 11:59 PM

LightStar

Biggest thing not to do on Twitter is to sign up in the first place.
What he said.  Facebook is evil too.  Millennial's are, well, Mellennial's.

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